Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by beanctr » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:40 pm

Just curious, did Kohno make "any" cedar guitars? I've never seen one. Rick
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:46 pm

beanctr wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:40 pm
Just curious, did Kohno make "any" cedar guitars? I've never seen one. Rick
Rumors says he build a few, but just like you I've never seen one. Sakurai did however build some cedars in the 70s and 80s.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Sankie » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:20 pm

I love sakurai guitar! My first classical guitar with cashew finish. PC model.
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:09 pm

Sankie wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:20 pm
I love sakurai guitar! My first classical guitar with cashew finish. PC model.
And in good company too it seems :)

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Post by Sankie » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:25 pm

rinneby wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:09 pm
Sankie wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:20 pm
I love sakurai guitar! My first classical guitar with cashew finish. PC model.
And in good company too it seems :)

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I traded my sakurai PC with others guitar. I have to get it again someday. Maybe an upgrade to maestro RF model.
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by powermrk » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:12 pm

Wondering if Japan's Kohno Guitar Manufacturing would repair used Masaru Kohno guitars which are without any warranty? (Of course, the owner pays for repairing fees)

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Jmario » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:36 pm

Hello,

Do you know what the model number means? I have seen that these numbers go from 1 to 30. In Kohno's website it says that "From around 1963 to 1982, we used numbers for our models. The model numbers also indicated their retail prices in Japan." It doesn't offer, however, further details about their models. My guess is that a higher number designates a better instrument. Do you know anything about it?
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by es335 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:44 pm

powermrk wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:12 pm
Wondering if Japan's Kohno Guitar Manufacturing would repair used Masaru Kohno guitars which are without any warranty? (Of course, the owner pays for repairing fees)
Masaki Sakurai certainly does! Just get in contact with him. He’s a very friendly and helpful person and has a lot of experience how to handle shipment etc. from everywhere in the world.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by powermrk » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:29 am

es335 wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:44 pm
powermrk wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:12 pm
Wondering if Japan's Kohno Guitar Manufacturing would repair used Masaru Kohno guitars which are without any warranty? (Of course, the owner pays for repairing fees)
Masaki Sakurai certainly does! Just get in contact with him. He’s a very friendly and helpful person and has a lot of experience how to handle shipment etc. from everywhere in the world.
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by powermrk » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:29 am

Hi, has anyone seen 60's Kohno with "Gold label"? Any means with these not-often-seen labels on vintage Kohnos?

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Guitar-ded » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:30 pm

beanctr wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:40 pm
Just curious, did Kohno make "any" cedar guitars? I've never seen one. Rick
He did make some cedar topped guitars which appear for sale every so often. Just for info a quick search shows this one.

wwwDOTlondonguitarstudio.com/kohno-1975-model-10-cedar-top-classical-guitar.ir
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by es335 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:31 am

I came across at least two Kohno guitars with cedar tops, a Kohno Concert from the 80s and a Kohno #20 from the late 70s. Both very nice guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by powermrk » Thu May 02, 2019 3:12 am

Have you seen any "gold lablel" on 60's Kohno guitars?
Was "gold label" used on select Kohno guitars you know?

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Thu May 02, 2019 6:01 am

powermrk wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 3:12 am
Have you seen any "gold lablel" on 60's Kohno guitars?
Was "gold label" used on select Kohno guitars you know?
They were, at least to my understanding, just "another label" and not to select any specially good guitar. Kohno used many different labels during the years. Numbers and labels doesn't matter for how a Kohno guitar sounds, this we now by know. A low number like No.2 can outclass a No.50, for example. A high number can of course be better than a low too. Its a matter of taste (and luck).

My advice is to not get hung up on labels and numbers and just select a guitar that speaks to you.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by quixilver » Fri May 03, 2019 5:16 am

rinneby wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 6:01 am
They were, at least to my understanding, just "another label" and not to select any specially good guitar. Kohno used many different labels during the years. Numbers and labels doesn't matter for how a Kohno guitar sounds, this we now by know. A low number like No.2 can outclass a No.50, for example. A high number can of course be better than a low too. Its a matter of taste (and luck).

My advice is to not get hung up on labels and numbers and just select a guitar that speaks to you.

/Jon
Despite all the debates around, I believe this is a valid statement. I have met Masaki Sakurai few times and had some conversations about his guitars in the past, and he kept emphasizing that he categorizes the model numbers based on the wood and materials he uses for the guitar. Higher numbers get the more expensive and better looking woods, tuners, decorations, sexier and more eye-catching 50+ years old Jacaranda etc etc... Mostly are aesthetic related stuff and do not have any specific correlation of how the guitars would sound better.

Hence, there are chances of getting a guitar with lower number which sounds better than the much higher numbers. I have listened and tried a Masaru Kohno 20 which sounds fantastic and is definitely capable to surpass some other Kohno/Sakurai either 50, Special, Maestro, you name it... in terms of tonal quality. Even for the same model, out of more than ten guitars of Special, PC and Maestro models I had tried, they were all different. Some of them were just okay, some of them were sub-par and a few of them were outstanding.
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