[PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

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[PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Intune » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:41 pm

Here is my solo guitar arrangement of Domenico Scarlatti's Sonata (K.466).

Originally in F minor, this beautiful keyboard work has been transposed here to E minor. Described by some as among Scarlatti's most lyrical compositions, it's almost Romantic in its sound. While K.466 doesn't present the daunting technical challenges of other Scarlatti sonatas played on guitar, it nonetheless calls for several interesting left-hand stretches that, if well executed, will reward the careful performer.

I want to thank Bernhard Heimann for his extraordinary music-notation skills and tireless all-around help in preparing the score.

I hope you enjoy this piece.

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Note on December 5: In the revised PDF file below I've tinkered with the grace notes a bit and added a few accidentals for clarification. Anyone who downloaded the earlier version might want to look at this new one.
Scarlatti_Sonata_K466_arr_Slate_rev_13.pdf
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:17 pm

bar 5, 4th beat ... D sharp?
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Intune » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:24 pm

Yes, D# is correct.
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:27 pm

Also, bars 35-7 D sharps in the stave? Not like I obsessed by D sharp or anything.
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Intune » Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:36 pm

Yes, D#'s in bars 35-37 too. I appreciate your close read, Stephen, as it's easy to get tripped up -- but I think we're okay in these measures as they stand.
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:04 pm

Intune wrote:Yes, D#'s in bars 35-37 too. I appreciate your close read, Stephen, as it's easy to get tripped up -- but I think we're okay in these measures as they stand.
Well its your project and its up to you - but leaving out the statement of the higher D sharps is not, according to all my experience, OK. At the very very least it would lead to people questioning them and having to stop and think - and at the worst, people playing it with naturals and wondering why it sounds wrong. The standard accidentals rule should be that the sharp, in this case, needs stating in every octave at which it is required, so the lower D sharp tells us nothing about the octave above (in 35 & 37) wherease the penultimate note in 36, if its supposed to be a sharp, (which I would need to check with the score and/or performances, but it certainly sounds like it needs it to me) in complete need of the accidental.

Btw, it wasn't a close read, just a read, those things jumped up off the page.

And its a really nice piece, not one I've seen transcribed before, but certainly have heard.
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by David Norton » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:24 pm

I agree with Stephen: having those upper D's clearly marked as D# is necessary.
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Intune » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:47 pm

Stephen and David, your point is well taken and I'll add sharps to those three notes to avoid confusion. Please alert me if you see any other issues. I'm perhaps too close to the music right now to notice such things and would appreciate a fresh set of eyes looking at it for the first time. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:16 pm

Intune wrote:.... I'm perhaps too close to the music right now to notice such things and would appreciate a fresh set of eyes looking at it for the first time. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Well if you've had nobody else proof read it then you did a fine job getting it that accurate!
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by gilles T » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:35 pm

Thank you intune for this careful transcription of a difficult sonata.

Just made a quick sight reading and I agree with with the points aforementionned about adding sharps when needed.

Plus, I was wondering if a lute tuning (g string to f#) would be a nice way to solve some fingering difficulties — I will take the time to work it in both ways and tell you which I prefer.

Anyway, you did already a great job. Every Scarlatti's fan rank this one in the top 3, if not top 1.

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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Intune » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:53 pm

Thanks for the kind words, Gilles. In the new PDF file I just posted I've added sharps to the three D notes in question, eliminating any possibility of confusion, so this is no longer an issue. Please let me know if tuning the G string to F# helps you with the fingering.

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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by gilles T » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:53 pm

Dear intune,

I went from standard stuning to lute tuning, just to find out the awfull truth : this lyrical sonata I love so much is simply beyond my skills.
I can barely play it on a keyboard, but I found that the "three against two" which is the hallmark of this work, is almost impossible for me to play fluentlly. Blame it on my lazyness, not on your nice transcription.
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Intune » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:58 am

Hi Gilles,

Sorry you're having trouble with the "3 against 2" passages. I found it helpful in the beginning to simply play the bass notes on guitar while singing the "3" treble notes above them. When I was confident in the rhythm I substituted my fingers for my voice and it all came together. Maybe something like this would work for you, too. Or simply put the piece down for the time being and come back to it when your skills improve, hopefully soon. Don't get discouraged!
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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by gilles T » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:44 pm

Thank you Intune for your precious insights and kind words.
For the time being, I can manage 3 against 2, but adding the grace notes before the triplets just drives me crazy...

That said, I agree with the idea that hard work can overcome any difficulty. Shall try again later — and maybe "fail better", as the great Sam Beckett puts it !

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Re: [PDF] Scarlatti, Domenico - Sonata (K.466)

Post by Denian Arcoleo » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:17 pm

Thank you very much indeed for this. I'm rather excited by this one.

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