People's perception of a 10-string

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People's perception of a 10-string

Post by soltirefa » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:56 pm

Do you ever get comments from non-guitar people, "Oh, that neck is so big and wide. It must be very hard to play."

I always explain that really the feel of the neck is just like a 6-string, that the spacing is not different. And while I may fret the 7th string occasionally I am not reaching farther than usual in most cases. What's hard is just having so many strings there, it can throw you off, especially the plucking hand.

Would you concur?

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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by David Norton » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:06 pm

Oh, heavens, where to start?

One of the primary reasons I gave up 10-string was "people's perceptions". I got tired of people coming up to me and making inane comments about the neck width. What irritated me most was the people (guys, usually) who said "I'm just standing here waiting for you to play some fast licks on those bass strings", followed by an intentionally awkward air guitar pantomime.

Pianists rarely use the full range of the keyboard, either, but the simile doesn't seem to carry across to the 10-string.
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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by Rick Beauregard » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:49 pm

No, But I do have a question about how those wide neck 7,8,10 string guitars are affected by such a huge log attached to their box. I think it takes away or changes from the resonance. Any opinions out there?
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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by soltirefa » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:03 pm

Rick Beauregard wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:49 pm
No, But I do have a question about how those wide neck 7,8,10 string guitars are affected by such a huge log attached to their box. I think it takes away or changes from the resonance. Any opinions out there?
I think you have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Some luthiers with experience can make a multi-string that will not be affected much by a larger neck.

This was discussed in a different thread in this sub-section. Do you think this 8-string is lacking from its larger neck?

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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by Rick Beauregard » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:28 am

soltirefa wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:03 pm
Rick Beauregard wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:49 pm
No, But I do have a question about how those wide neck 7,8,10 string guitars are affected by such a huge log attached to their box. I think it takes away or changes from the resonance. Any opinions out there?
I think you have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Some luthiers with experience can make a multi-string that will not be affected much by a larger neck.

This was discussed in a different thread in this sub-section. Do you think this 8-string is lacking from its larger neck?

https://youtu.be/hD2AbtAvJA0

Other than a mushy 8th string, no it sounds pretty great.
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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by Keith » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:22 am

I find the 10 string guitar to be the equivalent to K2. Many mortals can climb Everest but it takes a mountaineering stud (male or female) to climb K2.
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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by ElectricLute » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:58 am

When I use my 10 string in public the very few who approach me always ask why so many strings and look confused . Then I tell them its for sympathetic resonance and look more confused . Then I tell them the guitar uses re-entrant tuning and have that " deer in the headlights " look :shock: It does get annoying .
Also why does everyone think that to play a 10 string is like going from a toy piano to a concert grand ? I let an adult student of mine play it (he's at grade 3 level) and had absolutely no problem .
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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by zzzsegundaepoca » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:41 am

I remember reading years ago in Grove’s dictionary that towards the end of the dominance of the lute, more and more courses were added. The writer made a comment to the effect of this being a sign of decadence that heralded the imminence of its demise. I see a parallel here, as I do even in non-musical life. The more we complicate things in an attempt to improve them, the more we lose of what made the original any good to start with. That having been said, everybody must decide how he or she is going to spend his or her time and what is truly valuable. (Personally, I just think ten-string guitars look silly).

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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by ronjazz » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:18 pm

zzzsegundaepoca wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:41 am
I remember reading years ago in Grove’s dictionary that towards the end of the dominance of the lute, more and more courses were added. The writer made a comment to the effect of this being a sign of decadence that heralded the imminence of its demise. I see a parallel here, as I do even in non-musical life. The more we complicate things in an attempt to improve them, the more we lose of what made the original any good to start with. That having been said, everybody must decide how he or she is going to spend his or her time and what is truly valuable. (Personally, I just think ten-string guitars look silly).

A rather silly post.
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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by soltirefa » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:18 pm

ronjazz wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:18 pm
zzzsegundaepoca wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:41 am
I remember reading years ago in Grove’s dictionary that towards the end of the dominance of the lute, more and more courses were added. The writer made a comment to the effect of this being a sign of decadence that heralded the imminence of its demise. I see a parallel here, as I do even in non-musical life. The more we complicate things in an attempt to improve them, the more we lose of what made the original any good to start with. That having been said, everybody must decide how he or she is going to spend his or her time and what is truly valuable. (Personally, I just think ten-string guitars look silly).

A rather silly post.
Interesting that the poster elected to have his account deleted after this post. It makes me curious how many posts he had or if that was the only one.

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Re: People's perception of a 10-string

Post by ElectricLute » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:29 pm

I think you need to play a 10 string to have a perception rather than commenting it looks silly .
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