Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

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Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by lacatedral » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:40 pm

Hi, I've wondering what's the best way to amplify a classical guitar.

First, the issue about microphones: I've seen some Youtube videos about this topic, some prefer pickup microphones
(I mean these ones, I don't know how they are called in english, here's a photo:
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some others use these ones:
http://http2.mlstatic.com/microfono-de- ... 016-F.webp

Second, amplification. I have a 20 watts Peavey amplifier but it's for electric guitars, I doubt it would be suitable for a non electric guitar. I'd like to add some reverb too, the repertoire I'm studying right now is more "fingerstyle" or popular arrangements of pop songs.

Third, I was thinking in using some kind of audio interface, I have a Tascam US 144MKII over here, maybe it would be right to connect the guitar with some sort of mic to it, then use a DAW like Ableton (maybe reverb could came out of here, my amplifier doesn't even have a reverb knob). Or maybe some kind of multieffect pedal, I think they are intended for electric guitars, but an old professor of mine used an amplified classical guitar with it.

That would be all, thanks

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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by George Crocket » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:35 pm

Hi lacatedral. Welcome to the forum. Please post your introduction here
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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:59 pm

Hi there and greetings. I suggest when you follow George's request, add a bit more detail esp about what circumstances you'd want the amplification for, how you are fixed for budget, your wider expectations etc.

Meanwhile, my answer to your question is - there is no single answer. It depends. But on the face of it, to amplify to play in public the simplest way is to get an amplifier designed for acoustic guitars, (AER being the most obvious brand, many others available) which should have a reverb function built in. Such an amp would be able to take both mic cables and a lead from a plugged in guitar, I suspect the latter may be needed if you wanted to use effects pedals rather than a mic. A simple dynamic microphone would get you going and not be vulnerable to breakage in performance situations where space is tight.

Your interface enquiry relates obviously to recording, and I'd suggest you mine the various threads on the relevant part of the forum, because a few minutes doing that will probably go quite a way to suggesting a way forward for you.
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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by ben etow » Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:37 pm

The best way is to use Jean-Luc Joie's system with a Jean-Luc Joie guitar. Never heard anything better.

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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by tcrist » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:38 pm

lacatedral, Take a look at the Fishman Loudbox Artist. I always position the amp away from me and face the speaker straight up. This way the harsh speaker sound doesn't face the audience. An amp built for electric guitar isn't going to work. Find one for an acoustic or possibly for a keyboard. You'll need the bass response from these amps.

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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by Ceciltguitar » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:42 am

ToneDexter is getting a lot of good press from guitarists in regards to achieving an amplified sound that more closely resembles the natural tone of a guitar.

I agree that AER amplifiers are good. There are a lot of other options too. What matters the most is to use an amplification system that is appropriate for your application.

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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by ben etow » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:34 pm

The AER I heard with a Dammann at a fairly close range did not sound that good to my ears, sorry. It was u cello-guitar duet and the guitar sounded so dull and without any dynamics compared to the cello...

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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by Movitz » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:14 pm

Hi,

my humble input on the matter:

For some time now, I've been using a DPA 4099 for live performances with my classical guitar. ***link to commercial site removed*** (Mod edit: search for "dpa 4099 guitar") At first I found it utterly flimsy, but after finding out how to fasten the microphone securely so it doesn't move while I'm playing, and to place it so that I don't happen to touch it with my hand while playing, I'm very pleased with it. It works well for classical guitar as well as for steel stringed instruments. To me, making practically no money from performing, it was a bit on the expensive side. If you're a pro you'd probably think otherwise..

For amplification I prefer a PA to a dedicated guitar amp. At one small venue I played recently they had a Bose L1 ***link to commercial site removed*** (Mod edit: search for "Bose L1"). I liked it very much. I found it, in a good sense, neutral and it spread the sound nicely. Might consider getting one for my self - but then again it's the issue about the money...


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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by Lawler » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:50 pm

It depends completely on the acoustics of the room and situation you're in. Playing a concert hall with 3000 seats and quiet listeners? Playing in a private home with a 9 foot ceiling? Playing in a noisy bar or cafe?

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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by ben etow » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:38 pm

ben etow wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:37 pm
The best way is to use Jean-Luc Joie's system with a Jean-Luc Joie guitar. Never heard anything better.
Jean-Luc has posted the following message on FB with two pics. I strongly recommend it as a long time user.

"Omnidirectionnal Wifi ampli , dedicated to our guitars, that we developed with the company " Analog Performance "
José Ferreira , Catherine Struys , Thibault Cauvin , Boris Gaquere ,David Garciarena ,Patrick Lanusse, Patrick Ruby, Pierre Colombo, Christine Lanusse, Jérémy Duran, Jean- Bernard Poublan , Benoit Ducène ......play in concert with it !"
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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by bear » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:28 pm

I have a condenser mic plugged into an amp.
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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by ben etow » Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:21 pm

If you play chamber music and concertos, I'm afraid you need more. Even the Schlemper system just enables you to be heard. Agreed, it was regarded as the best available up to now, but the Joie system goes far beyond. The guitar player becomes an instrumentalist as any other. Heard by all his colleagues, he hears himself/herself the same way, has plenty of dynamic range available and a beautifull tone to play music without having to struggle... Even more sustain to sing melodies. Really, this is another world.

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Re: Best way you know to amplify a classical guitar.

Post by PeteJ » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:29 pm

ben etow wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:38 pm

The best way is to use Jean-Luc Joie's system with a Jean-Luc Joie guitar. Never heard anything better.
I'm struggling to find any discussion of this (in English) or any demos. Do you have any links?

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