USB recording microphone

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Guitarist2k18
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USB recording microphone

Post by Guitarist2k18 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:55 pm

Hello,

I will be recording some guitar music soon and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for USB microphones to plug into my laptop? I have a CAD U37 and keep playing around with settings. It has been OK but I am looking for something with a warmer sound. Does anyone use the U37 and can share their ideal settings? I’ve done a lot of research and haven’t found the ideal settings yet for recording quality. Thanks!

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Guitarist2k18 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:40 pm

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by konstantine » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:59 am

Check out the Apogee Mic+:


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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Guitarist2k18 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:39 pm

Thanks so much. Have you used this one?

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by konstantine » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:04 pm

Yes, I made the video above.

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Guitarist2k18 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:22 pm

Thanks. It's just way more expensive than the CAD U37. Worth the $200+?

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Nick Cutroneo » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:48 pm

I use a $40 Samson GoMic. I've been recording all of my YouTube videos with this mic since 2014. I've messed around with EQs in Logic (my DAW) to find a sound that best suits what I'm looking for. I've recently upgraded to a Zoom Q8 which has it's own XY pattern mic, I'll be giving that a try for recording my sound. But I've got good use out of the Samson mic. I'd suggest you mess around with the EQ in your recording software.

It takes a bit of time to learn what frequencies you need to alter to get the sound you want, however when you find it save the settings! It will take time...so be patient and experiment. There's no magic advice other than hard work, and get yourself a decent pair of studio monitors to listen back on. I use Mackie $100 monitors (for the pair) that I got on amazon. Not amazing, but does the job and are fairly neutral sounding.
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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Guitarist2k18 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:55 am

Thanks! I am a novice and don’t know much about EQ. I have a newish laptop. Will this suffice for listening to my recordings? Not trying to sound like David Russell - just need a decent sound quality.

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Guitarist2k18 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:15 am

Does Acoustica MP3 Audio Mixer work okay as software? How important is the software vs microphone?

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Nick Cutroneo » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:10 am

You definitely do not want to EQ your sound using laptop speakers. You need a pair of monitors or at least studio quality headphones. The only thing your software does is record for you, it adds 0 to your initial tone. For EQ-ing purposes they are all the same, as all you are doing are enhancing or turning down certain frequencies.
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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Guitarist2k18 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:34 pm

Doesn't the microphone take care of the sound quality? How much editing actually needs to be done?

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Nick Cutroneo » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:47 pm

Guitarist2k18 wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:34 pm
Doesn't the microphone take care of the sound quality? How much editing actually needs to be done?
To a point. EQ is used to shape the sound and refine what you hear. I look for a mic which won't color my sound - the Samson mic is pretty "neutral" sounding. So that captures my guitar's sound. From there I reduce frequencies I dislike (nail clicks, background noise, squeaks, etc...) and enhance sound qualities/frequencies I like. It's really about messing around with the EQ. I started by just using a simple 3 band (bass, mid, treble) EQ setting from my first software (Garageband), and when I got Logic they have a graphic EQ interface that I've been using. It's about experimenting and messing around. Learn your software and learn what it can do. I'm sure there's an EQ somewhere on your software, you have to find it.
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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:39 pm

Why limit yourself to a USB microphone? A Focusright USB audio interface (just google this phrase) allows you to use any microphone you want.

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Guitarist2k18 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:07 pm

I just don't think it does the instrument justice or feels natural with all this heavy editing of the recording. I hear some guitarists and can barely make out the chords they're playing on the CDs because of all the editing that's taken place. I recorded on my U37 a few years ago and they recordings sound decent. I just need to tinker with the settings or maybe slightly upgade my mic.

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Re: USB recording microphone

Post by Nick Cutroneo » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:23 am

Guitarist2k18 wrote:
Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:07 pm
I just don't think it does the instrument justice or feels natural with all this heavy editing of the recording.
No offense, but if EQ your instrument seems like "heavy editing" to you. You'd be shocked to know that professional recordings have hundreds of edits done to them to make them crystal clear and perfect.
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