Very good metronome app

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Yvon
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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by Yvon » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:21 am

I also used metro timer. I liked it enough to buy it.

It's the only metronome app I use.
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wilhelmreich

Re: Very good metronome app

Post by wilhelmreich » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:00 am

philip caldwell wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:02 am
you lot are not thinking this through. A click on a metronome is any value you want it to be. it's not the machine that 'subdivides' the beats, it's you . in your head. For example if you have it set to 100 bpm as crotchets and that's far too fast then imagine it as beating quavers so it's not going 1 2 3
it's going 1 and 2 and 3 and. Now it's at 50 beats a crochet. Do you see? On passages with lots of runs in quavers or semi quavers it's not useful to have a click on each note, Set it to 1 beat for each group of 4 for example.
I don't understand, sorry.
For an example - two bars from a Lauro's piece. Both contain 6 eights. The first bar is 3/4:
X x X x X x
The second bar is 6/8:
X x x X x x
With a normal metronome you can set it for 6 clicks per per, for each eigth:
!_!_!_!_!_!__!_!_!_!_!_!
X x X x X x | X x x X x x
Or you set it for 1 click, for the whole bar.
!________|_!_____
X x x X x x | X x x X x x
For practicing phrasing I would like to have the possibility to have click on the strong beats:
!___!__!__|_!____!___
X x X x X x | X x x X x x

It was an old question and I still don't have found an answer. I practiced Lauro without a metronome instead :)

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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by philip caldwell » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:04 am

wilhelmreich wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:00 am
philip caldwell wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:02 am
you lot are not thinking this through. A click on a metronome is any value you want it to be. it's not the machine that 'subdivides' the beats, it's you . in your head. For example if you have it set to 100 bpm as crotchets and that's far too fast then imagine it as beating quavers so it's not going 1 2 3
it's going 1 and 2 and 3 and. Now it's at 50 beats a crochet. Do you see? On passages with lots of runs in quavers or semi quavers it's not useful to have a click on each note, Set it to 1 beat for each group of 4 for example.
I don't understand, sorry.
For an example - two bars from a Lauro's piece. Both contain 6 eights. The first bar is 3/4:
X x X x X x
The second bar is 6/8:
X x x X x x
With a normal metronome you can set it for 6 clicks per per, for each eigth:
!_!_!_!_!_!__!_!_!_!_!_!
X x X x X x | X x x X x x
Or you set it for 1 click, for the whole bar.
!________|_!_____
X x x X x x | X x x X x x
For practicing phrasing I would like to have the possibility to have click on the strong beats:
!___!__!__|_!____!___
X x X x X x | X x x X x x

It was an old question and I still don't have found an answer. I practiced Lauro without a metronome instead :)
" With a normal metronome you can set it for 6 clicks per per, for each eigth:" no you set it only for the main beats..
What Lauro piece are you talking about? Valse N0 2 ? it's a waltz remember. set your metronome for 3 beats to a bar. it can be practiced fine like that. Each second bar doesn't turn into a jig. Listen to some people playing it on you tube
Last edited by philip caldwell on Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:49 am, edited 2 times in total.

Rasputin
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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by Rasputin » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:16 am

wilhelmreich wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:00 am
For an example - two bars from a Lauro's piece. Both contain 6 eights. The first bar is 3/4:
X x X x X x
The second bar is 6/8:
X x x X x x
With a normal metronome you can set it for 6 clicks per per, for each eigth:
!_!_!_!_!_!__!_!_!_!_!_!
X x X x X x | X x x X x x
Or you set it for 1 click, for the whole bar.
!________|_!_____
X x x X x x | X x x X x x
For practicing phrasing I would like to have the possibility to have click on the strong beats:
!___!__!__|_!____!___
X x X x X x | X x x X x x

It was an old question and I still don't have found an answer. I practiced Lauro without a metronome instead :)
You can do this with Tempo Advance, although it takes some setting up if you want every bar to be different.

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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by philip caldwell » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:50 am

You don't need every bar to be different. That would just be confusing.

prawnheed

Re: Very good metronome app

Post by prawnheed » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:55 pm

philip caldwell wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:50 am
You don't need every bar to be different. That would just be confusing.
Some music, especially, latin american music is like that. Even if not written explicitly, the accents can vary between a 3/4 and 6/8 feel.

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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by philip caldwell » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:17 pm

"accents can vary between a 3/4 and 6/8 feel." yes, exactly, it's the feel. so you can use the metronome thinking in 3/4 and emphasise the 6/8 accents where you want them. You'll put the accent on an 'and' rather than a 2 for example. It seems weird but it doesn't take much to get used to it. I've just been doing it. or you can switch to thinking in 6/8

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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by Guitar Maniac » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:34 am

haven't tried metro timer yet cause I don't have an iPhone and I'm not sure about its Android version, however I find this online metronome pretty good also:

[search google for "flutetunes metronome"]

it allows subdividing the beat and moreover, it's free

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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by philip caldwell » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:43 am

This bloke waffles a bit but you can glean all the essential info from him eventually and he has a good explanation of the correct way to use a metronome (at least in my opinion).

As you can see this is the 3rd video in a group of 4. The 4th video might be worth a look too.


prawnheed

Re: Very good metronome app

Post by prawnheed » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:25 pm

I use DM1. It is a drum machine and lets you program patterns and combine them into pieces.

If you want, you can also use samples to make beats in a bunch of different styles, but you can also just use it in a more simple way as an accented metronome.

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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by philip caldwell » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:27 pm

My point is really the proper use of metronomes and the fact that you don't need machines to count off subdivisions as you ought to be practising how to do that yourself. As Mathews in the video points out.

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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by ronjazz » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:35 pm

People are different from each other, Philip. Just saying.
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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by philip caldwell » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:01 pm

ronjazz wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:35 pm
People are different from each other, Philip. Just saying.
what do you mean? I'm just talking about using a metronome...

prawnheed

Re: Very good metronome app

Post by prawnheed » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:23 pm

philip caldwell wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:01 pm
ronjazz wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:35 pm
People are different from each other, Philip. Just saying.
what do you mean? I'm just talking about using a metronome...
There is more than one way to use a metronome. It depends on, amongst other things, the features of the metronome, the music you are trying to learn, the skills you already have, and the way in which you are approaching the learning.

To talk about a "proper" way to use a metronome is not taking into account those differences.

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Re: Very good metronome app

Post by philip caldwell » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:28 pm

prawnheed wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:23 pm
philip caldwell wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:01 pm
ronjazz wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:35 pm
People are different from each other, Philip. Just saying.
what do you mean? I'm just talking about using a metronome...
There is more than one way to use a metronome. It depends on, amongst other things, the features of the metronome, the music you are trying to learn, the skills you already have, and the way in which you are approaching the learning.

To talk about a "proper" way to use a metronome is not taking into account those differences.
I don't think it does depend on those things. Have a look at the video I posted.

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