for beginners it is sometimes necessary and normal, but for "greats"? it is unnecessary, harmful bad habit... and they set bad example this way toomeouzer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:31 amAlmost without exception, classical concert guitarists constantly and intently look at their left hand. So no one can say you can look at the left hand too much without contradicting common practice of the greats. Jamie Andreas who writes for beginners/intermediates and who has won pedagogy awards says "you don't know what your fingers are doing unless you look at them" (both right and left). So you adopted bad practice and ingrained it because you never looked?
As Larry implies above, the key distinction is whether one is "examining" their hands or simply peering away at them mindlessly or with little purpose.
Thanks for Aguado quote! it is nice to find out that (without knowing of his opinion ) I always felt the same!mainterm wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:54 pmAs Larry implies above, the key distinction is whether one is "examining" their hands or simply peering away at them mindlessly or with little purpose.
It is difficult to examine the hands carefully by looking directly at them while playing, the view is limited and one can't get the whole picture. It is better to have the perspective of an observer, e.g. by using video, having a teacher, having a teacher who is using video...
I often find with beginners that they form a habit of looking at the fretting hand and that this provides little to no technical or musical value. However if the student has the means to examine their hands - preferably through video - then do it, it is very effective.
Aguado states in his new method (nearly 200 years ago) - that looking to the hands should only be done in a minimal way when in the initial stages of learning a finger position or movement. He asserts that once the movement is learnt don't look anymore - rely instead on your sense of hearing to ascertain whether "any sound is not clear". And, if you must look - use a mirror instead. Perhaps 19th century version of video?
Thanks for your advice Larry.Of course its quite a mind shift from what Ive understood according to( Noad's Solo GuitarBk1p.110) ,where he feels that breaking into repetitive sections initially, hampers the overall feel and continuity of the piece.But I see you do focus on the "overall feel"as a final stage subsequent to actual performance standard.I suppose like most disciplins there are pros and cons depending on the merits of each individual case.It would appear that one can't be too rigid about these matters.I do stand to be corrected of course.Larry McDonald wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:22 pmHi,
This is what I recommend.
http://www.larrymcdonaldguitar.com/pdfs ... actice.pdf
All the best,