Bad habits – what are yours?

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by dng » Wed May 07, 2014 4:09 pm

STMPS .....Starting too many pieces Syndrom
same here...

thanks for mentioning that...

I was wondering if it is a remnant of ADS... Attention Deficit Syndrome of my youth...

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by Kennethmarkhoover » Mon May 12, 2014 9:33 pm

Playing badly is my bad habit!

But my other bad habit is trying to play too fast. I have a tendency to rush because I know how the music should sound, instead of concentrating and playing each note well, no matter how slowly, so I can learn properly. That's a real problem I have always had. :(

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by Erik Zurcher » Mon May 12, 2014 9:54 pm

Starting to play a new piece without musical concept and hoping that it will come along the way. It never does!
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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by Scot Tremblay » Mon May 12, 2014 10:03 pm

You mean besides lurking on delcamp more often than I really have time for...??
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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by Erik Zurcher » Mon May 12, 2014 10:16 pm

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by bear » Tue May 13, 2014 12:25 am

I play too fast. It's not something I do consciously. I'm usually have too much fun to focus.
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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by robin loops » Tue May 13, 2014 11:43 pm

bear wrote:I play too fast. It's not something I do consciously. I'm usually have too much fun to focus.
This is my biggest achilles heal. I have a theory that it is partly due to raised adrenalin levels when playing (especially is for an audience or recording, but even simply from the 'rush' of playing) and therefore causes a change in the perception of time, just like when you're in a car accident and things seem as they are going in slow motion. I think that is also why it's hard to notice that we are playing fast, since our brains are operating under the effects of adrenaline. To counter the effect I focus a lot on relaxing while playing (also helps with my other bad habit of pressing too hard and playing too hard in general).

Playing what seems to be really really slow and recording practice sessions helps me a lot with this too. Listening back I notice it's usually not so exaggeratedly slow.

And finally, I think we tend to practice things in a way that exacerbates this problem. The standard method of always practicing slow enough that we can play through it smoothly means we are continuously speeding up a piece as we can play it better. At some point I get to where I can play it really well (or at least easily) at correct tempo but the habit to take it to the edge of being difficult makes me push it faster. To compensate for this I try to have a more conscious approach to speeding up as I learn a piece (as opposed to just always pushing to play it faster as a work on it, I raise tempo in stages as the piece develops. More like stair stepping than a ramp).

That said it's also sometimes just fun to play stuff as crazy fast as you can...
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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by kloeten » Wed May 14, 2014 8:53 am

Wrong placement of my LH thumb, makes my LH unstable with difficult pieces. Broken i/m alternation.
What I do about it: need to be constantly aware of both things when learning a new piece and that works to some extent.

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by Bododio » Wed May 14, 2014 4:53 pm

I have many bad habits, but the 2 of most current concern are bowing my left wrist too much, and plucking the strings with too much flesh.
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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by bear » Wed May 14, 2014 5:01 pm

robin loops wrote:
bear wrote:I play too fast. It's not something I do consciously. I'm usually have too much fun to focus.
This is my biggest achilles heal. I have a theory that it is partly due to raised adrenalin levels when playing (especially is for an audience or recording, but even simply from the 'rush' of playing) and therefore causes a change in the perception of time, just like when you're in a car accident and things seem as they are going in slow motion. I think that is also why it's hard to notice that we are playing fast, since our brains are operating under the effects of adrenaline. To counter the effect I focus a lot on relaxing while playing (also helps with my other bad habit of pressing too hard and playing too hard in general).

Playing what seems to be really really slow and recording practice sessions helps me a lot with this too. Listening back I notice it's usually not so exaggeratedly slow.

And finally, I think we tend to practice things in a way that exacerbates this problem. The standard method of always practicing slow enough that we can play through it smoothly means we are continuously speeding up a piece as we can play it better. At some point I get to where I can play it really well (or at least easily) at correct tempo but the habit to take it to the edge of being difficult makes me push it faster. To compensate for this I try to have a more conscious approach to speeding up as I learn a piece (as opposed to just always pushing to play it faster as a work on it, I raise tempo in stages as the piece develops. More like stair stepping than a ramp).

That said it's also sometimes just fun to play stuff as crazy fast as you can...
I don't normally play in public(I think there's a restraining order). Playing is a kind of meditation, I can put everything else out of my mind, it's my Tai Chi. I lose all sense of time and apparently tempo as well.
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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by kelidj » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:07 pm

I recently took few classes with a teacher after practicing on my own for many years. I learned that I have quite a few bad habits I need to correct. One of them is proper finger preparation or finger planting. Another one is unfocused practice methods.

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by Mick the Ramirez Man » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:38 pm

If I make a mistake while performing publicly, it shows in my facial expression. I'll wince or smirk. I try not to do it, but I have an expressive face. :?

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by guitareleven » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:26 pm

Letting things lapse to the point where I have to re-discover that practicing is a good thing to do.

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by allenmathews » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:34 pm

Definitely the internet. And sometimes my caffeine intake interferes with my focus.

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Re: Bad habits – what are yours?

Post by rogerleec » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:05 pm

Not getting the fingers on my right hand to land on the strings in the correct position to do a free stroke.
I slow down and practice arpeggios, making sure the fingers land correctly on the strings before plucking them.
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