D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

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D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jean-François Delcamp » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:08 pm

Hello everyone,
Please start by downloading the latest version of volume D03.
If you are new to the course, please read this message to familiarize yourself with the conditions for participating in the lessons. You should also read the first message in lesson 1, where you will find advice on how to make the most of your study time and on the methods of practising that I recommend.




Today, we're going to work on a series of exercises.
- page 90, numbers 16, 17 - Jean-François DELCAMP - SCALES
When changes of position are needed, you will be using the "position shift" technique. Position I is the left hand position where the index finger (1) is placed behind the 1st fret, position V is the hand position where the index (1) is placed behind the fifth fret, etc. The position shift involves moving the left hand along the neck, from position to position, from fret to fret. In the scales we're looking at today, notice that my first finger never leaves the first string, I use it as a guide for my hand. Position shifts are shown by oblique lines linking two fingering indications given for the same finger.
The following videos are for numbers 16, 17 on page 90. Concentrate your practice on the passages highlighted in yellow, and do your best to perfect the position shift technique.





- Page 95, numbers 32, 33, 34, 35, 36. Jean-François DELCAMP - SLURS
We have already worked on the rest stroke (apoyando) with the fingers of the right hand. Now we are going to work on doing a rest stroke with the fingers of the left hand. That is the best way to learn how to execute descending slurs.








Finally, we'll look at 4 pieces, pages 39, 42, 43, 56 et 58.
- page 39 Ferdinand CARULLI (1770-1841) PRELUDE N°4 opus 114
Practise playing this arpeggio while keeping 3 fingers on the strings throughout. Doing it this way will teach you to make the necessary finger movement without it triggering involuntary and unwanted movements by the other fingers.





- pages 42-43 Ferdinand CARULLI (1770-1841) VALSE




- page 56 Niccolò PAGANINI (1782-1840) GHIRIBIZZO n°1
There are numerous repetitions, so vary the tone colour to avoid monotony. To obtain different tone colours, play:
- over the soundhole (the sound volume is at its best here and you get a good balance between the bass and treble notes);
- over the fingerboard (the sound here is softer, closer to the that of a clarinet, and the basses are softened);
- near the bridge (the sound here is more metallic, and becomes close to that of the harpsichord, the basses are strengthened and the trebles weakened).




- page 58 Dionisio AGUADO (1784-1849) LECCION N°19
Practise playing this arpeggio while keeping 2 fingers on the strings throughout. Doing it this way will teach you to make the necessary finger movement without it triggering involuntary and unwanted movements by the other fingers.




I ask you first to work on all these exercises and pieces for one week and then to post your recordings on the forum for:
- page 39 Ferdinand CARULLI (1770-1841) PRELUDE N°4 opus 114
- page 56 Niccolò PAGANINI (1782-1840) GHIRIBIZZO n°1



Good luck!


I thank Geoff (GeoffB) who has helped in the translation of my lessons into English.


Jean-François

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Exam qualifying submissions:

PRELUDE N°4 opus 114
GHIRIBIZZO n°1

David Florea
PRELUDE N°4 opus 114
GHIRIBIZZO n°1

Salvatore Lovinello
PRELUDE N°4 opus 114
GHIRIBIZZO n°1

Jenni Gribble
PRELUDE N°4 opus 114
GHIRIBIZZO n°1
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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:37 pm

I have a question about the Carulli Prelude, pg 39, fingering. In measures 3, 8, 12 and 14 the G has a 1 fingering. That would mean I have to play the D string at the fifth fret. I don't see the Maestro ever playing the D string in his examples. What am I missing?

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Colin Bullock » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:41 pm

Salvatore Lovinello wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:37 pm
What am I missing?
A G#
3rd string 1st fret

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:28 pm

Thank you, Colin. I'm obviously lacking in music theory. I'm especially embarrassed since I think made this error before. For now maybe I should mark up the score with notes and reminders before I practice/play a piece until scales become second nature. I was planning on getting Music Theory for Dummies unless anyone has another suggestion.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by David Florea » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:52 pm

My submissions
PRELUDE N°4 opus 114
GHIRIBIZZO n°1



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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:26 pm

Hi David,

Nice job, steady improvement. Good 6/8 rhythm on the Pagannini. Keep in mind the bass notes, except in two measures, are the same time value than the other notes. You started out damping the bass notes and then stopped.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:29 pm

My submissions. Let me know what you think. I have a few days left to fix errors and fumbles.
Carulli.mp3
N Pagannini.mp3
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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by David Florea » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:46 pm

Salvatore, I never feel comfortable critiquing others on this forum as I have no formal background in music. Having said that I can say this. Listening to my submission was painful to my ears. Slow then fast, missed notes not smooth . YOUR submission on the other hand was quite the opposite. Smooth and steady timing. All notes seemed to be played comfortably and nicely. Not painful to my ears at all. I’m not sure how long you’ve been at this but it sounds as though your doing very well. My humble opinion. Keep it up!

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Robert Goodwin » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:42 pm

David Florea wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:52 pm
My submissions
PRELUDE N°4 opus 114
GHIRIBIZZO n°1


Hi David. Just wanted to commend you for what I consider to be excellent right-hand control in your videos. Don't worry about how quickly you absorb some new piece but be conscious of technique. I've had a five year gap in playing but I find returning to reading music to be a lot like reading written text. It tends to stick with you once you learn it. What I am finding more difficult is ridding myself of bad habits such as when playing with P+(a,i,or m) my right hand seems to want to pop up while plucking the strings.

best regards,
Bob G.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Salvatore Lovinello » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:53 pm

David, Thank you for your accolades. I guess it's a matter of perspective. I find it very hard to listen to my music as well. I never hear what I do right, only what I do wrong.
Please never feel uncomfortable giving my playing your opinion. It's how I learn.
Addressing your concerns about your playing...
I start each new song by playing a slowly as I need to play without making too many mistakes. Even if that means the metronome is set to 40bpm.
I play 15 min. of scales every day. (boring but do it anyway)
I supplement with exercises for both right and left hand. (boring and sometimes painful. Never play through pain)
I play daily for at least 45 min. and often more. (more often than not frustrating)
I still think I have long long way to go.
Your time will come, David. Keep working especially on what you feel you are weak at playing. You will continue to improve. I certainly hear the difference between when you began and now.

Sal

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Robert Goodwin » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:13 pm

Salvatore Lovinello wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:29 pm
My submissions. Let me know what you think. I have a few days left to fix errors and fumbles.
Carulli.mp3
N Pagannini.mp3
Hi Salvatore,

I noticed in the Carulli (page 39) one note sounded out of place in bar 7 and again in bar 14. Note that bar 14 should sound exactly like bar 12 except for the first note in the bar. I believe you are playing the third note in bar 14 a halftone higher.

best regard,
Bob G.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jenni Gribble » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:12 am

Ok, My arpeggios are sloppy and uneven, but A LOT better than they used to be. At least I may be headed in the right direction. The Carulli piece is played on my Cordoba Mini guitar. I can play the Carulli piece a bit faster, but I am trying to play evenly, so I slowed it down. My "a" finger really wants to come quickly after the "m" finger. Sometimes I can get it right if I really relax my right hand. I think it will take practice.
Paganini Ghiribizzo 1.mp3
Carulli Prelude 4.mp3
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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jenni Gribble » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:30 am

I agree with Bob G. I always admire David's right hand technique :) He also does great slurs. And Salvatore, your recordings sound great--especially the Carulli. I envy your even arpeggios. I do agree with Bob. There seem to be a couple of missed notes. I had trouble with measure 9, myself. I practiced it one way for a long time and then thought I had it wrong for about a week. I tried to fix it and then realized I was right after all. It is the A#. It sort of boggles the mind...
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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Robert Goodwin » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:13 pm

Jenni Gribble wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:12 am
Ok, My arpeggios are sloppy and uneven, but A LOT better than they used to be. At least I may be headed in the right direction. The Carulli piece is played on my Cordoba Mini guitar. I can play the Carulli piece a bit faster, but I am trying to play evenly, so I slowed it down. My "a" finger really wants to come quickly after the "m" finger. Sometimes I can get it right if I really relax my right hand. I think it will take practice.

Paganini Ghiribizzo 1.mp3

Carulli Prelude 4.mp3
Hi Jenni,
Your Ghiribizzo was very well paced and overall very good. There were a few areas you might want to work on. The base notes are eighth notes and should be damped (strictly speaking). You'll see that Prof. Delcamp uses his thumb to damp the notes. Also, in bar 4, the thumb should play the open second string. You were playing the open third string.

Sadly I can only offer sympathy for that nervous 'a' finger. The arpeggios are particularly grand and lovely music when played in a stately manor. It must be frustrating for you but perhaps you could simply try practicing 'i-m-a' very very slowly with a large separation between them until that becomes more comfortable. It's more important to sort out these things than to learn a new piece.

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Re: D03 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jenni Gribble » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:02 am

I practiced the Ghiribizzo piece as you describe, damping the base notes. But in the end, I just couldn’t feel it—musically, so I let them ring. As for the wrong note, I probably memorized it wrong. I tend to do that.

I will keep practicing the arpeggios. I think I will eventually get my muscles to do the right thing. I can play them better on a harp, but the mechanics are different.

The third finger is problematic because the muscles/tendons cross there, so it gets pulled in by the action of the second finger. I think this is why my arpeggios are better when I relax the muscles of my hand.
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