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D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jean-François Delcamp » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:09 pm

Hello everyone,
Please start by downloading the latest version of volume D05.
If you are new to the course, please read this message to familiarize yourself with the conditions for participating in the lessons. You should also read the first message in lesson 1, where you will find advice on how to make the most of your study time and on the methods of practising that I recommend.



Now we are going to work on a series of exercises:
- page 160 Jean-François DELCAMP (1956) Exercices sur les harmoniques à l'octave (Exercises for octave harmonics):

exercise 110, play natural octave harmonics using both hands.
exercise 111, natural octave harmonics using one hand.
exercise 112, artificial octave harmonics: F and G on the first string.
exercise 113, natural and artificial octave harmonics: scale of E minor.
exercise 114, natural and artificial octave harmonics: arpeggio of E minor.
exercise 115, natural and artificial harmonics produced by touching the harmonic node of the string with the thumb.
exercise 116, natural and artificial harmonics produced by touching the harmonic node of the string with the index finger.












Today we'll look at 5 pieces.
- page 27 Anonyme Saltarello
I offer a fingering which makes it easier to control how long the basses ring on. You are free to use it or, along with the majority of guitarists, to opt for a fingering with all open strings in the bass.
Each phrase is repeated a second time with small embellishments. Thus bars 9 to 16 repeat bars 1 to 8, and bars 25 to 32 repeat bars 17 to 24.
The harmonics of the last few bars are natural harmonics produced by lightly touching the harmonic node of the string with a left-hand finger. In the final 3 bars, make a barré with the left-hand finger, just barely touching the strings.



- page 53 Niccolò PAGANINI (1782-1840) GHIRIBIZZO n°38
This is a lively piece. In my view, it should be played staccato to reveal its resolute, masterful side. A rare alliance of conviction and conciseness, it is a little masterpiece.



- page 70 Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60
In this arpeggio study the three voices are each expressed in their turn. Mostly the bass appears on beats 1 and 4, the melody on beats 2 and 3, and the middle voice in between beats. Use rest stroke on the first string with the ring finger in order to bring out the melody.



- page 118 Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita
One of the charms of this very poetical piece is the melody in artificial harmonics. To produce these harmonics on the bass strings, I use my thumb to touch the harmonic node of the string at the indicated fret. Doing it this way allows me to stay close to the normal position.




- page 128 Julio Sagreras (1879-1942) Lecciones III n°11
This is a lesson where the melody is played in artificial octave harmonics. To produce an artificial octave harmonic, the guitarist lightly touches the string with the index finger at a dividing point (a harmonic node) situated half way along the vibrating length of the string, while at the same time plucking the string with the ring finger as near as possible to the bridge. One of the difficulties is to play the melody in harmonics mezzo forte and the accompaniment piano. Either the ring finger or the little finger can be used for playing harmonics. The ring finger seems to me to be easier to use. The little finger is an interesting option because it can pluck the string further away from the point where it is being touched by the index finger. The further away from this point you can pluck the string, the louder and clearer is the sound obtained. To increase volume and clarity, stretch the plucking finger as far as possible from the finger touching the harmonic node.



I ask you first to work on all these exercises and tunes for a week and then to upload your recordings of:
- page 70 Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60
- page 118 Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita



Good luck!


I thank Geoff (GeoffB) who has helped in the translation of my lessons into English.


Jean-François


Exam qualifying submissions:
Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60
Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita

Jeffrey Chan
Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60
Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita

Maria Anisimova
Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60
Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita

luis alberto garcia
Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60
Agustín Barrios Mangoré (1885-1944) El sueño de la muñequita
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jeffrey Chan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:23 am

My submission for Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60:

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jeffrey Chan » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:23 am

I found another interesting arrangement of El sueño de la muñequita

http://ks.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usim ... ta+mid.pdf

I like this arrangement uses barres in some places and different bass note octaves.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jeffrey Chan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:18 pm

For the harmonics for El sueño de la muñequita, it looks like he is using his thumb for the harmonic and i finger to pluck the string. Then m and a for the chord afterwards
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by John Montes » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:06 am

Jeffrey Chan wrote: My submission for Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60:
The Carcassi piece is coming along pretty good, just a small number of spots where familiarity and repetition at slower tempos can smooth out transitions.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Maria Anisimova » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:19 pm

Jeffrey Chan wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:23 am
My submission for Matteo Carcassi (1792-1853) Etude III opus 60:
I liked your Etude. My only suggestion is that some note in the melody might be played softer, to me some sounded a bit harsh. But may be it is just a female approach.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jeffrey Chan » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:56 am

Thanks John and Maria. I'll work on transitions and dynamics.

For El sueno, the harmonics are quite challenging! It's new for me to do it with my thumb. Will probably need another week before I post a video.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Maria Anisimova » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:13 pm

Here is Carcassi Etude 3 op 60

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jeffrey Chan » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:15 pm

Great job Maria! It's sound good. I might suggest some work on dynamics:

beat 1 - accompaniment quiet
beat 2 - melody loud
beat 3 - melody quiet
beat 4 - accompaniment quiet

That way, you can achieve a "falling" emotion and affect to the melody, with the accompaniment in a supporting role.

Some of the bars ( at least for me ) required me to cross brace my guitar ( e.g. pull back on my right forearm to put counter pressure on my barring left hand, without increasing left thumb pressure ). I'm not sure if this is possible using the silent guitar. I'm trying to use my left thumb less and my left bicep more.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jeffrey Chan » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:15 am

My submission for El sueño de la muñequita.

The harmonics were a pretty tough, especially with the thumb. I'm hoping using the i finger for the harmonics was correct.

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jesús Morote » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:27 pm

Hi Jeffrey.

There are two mistakes that you should correct:

1. The bass of M 4-5 (marked as 5-6 in the score) is not the same that in M 21-22.

2. Natural harmonics in M 42 and 44 are in the 5th fret, not in 12th. In 5th the sound is one octave higher than in 12th.

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Jeffrey Chan » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:23 pm

Jesús Morote wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:27 pm
Hi Jeffrey.

There are two mistakes that you should correct:

1. The bass of M 4-5 (marked as 5-6 in the score) is not the same that in M 21-22.

2. Natural harmonics in M 42 and 44 are in the 5th fret, not in 12th. In 5th the sound is one octave higher than in 12th.

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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by John Montes » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:03 am

Jeffrey Chan wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:15 am
My submission for El sueño de la muñequita.

The harmonics were a pretty tough, especially with the thumb. I'm hoping using the i finger for the harmonics was correct.
Yes the Barrios piece can be pretty busy for the plucking hand and the various harmonics. For me personally, I had better results with the chord play and harmonics execution using the thumb to isolate the harmonic and index finger to pluck.

Which technique to use can depend on how the plucking hand is being used to do other things, a different approach may be better in a different piece/context.
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by Maria Anisimova » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:10 pm

Barrios El sueño de la muñequita



As you can see, this time it is a normal guitar. Somehow it turns out that harmonics on a silent guitar sound horrible, to put it mildly
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Re: D05 Classical guitar lesson 05

Post by luis alberto garcia » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:32 pm

Maria Anisimova wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:10 pm
Barrios El sueño de la muñequita


As you can see, this time it is a normal guitar. Somehow it turns out that harmonics on a silent guitar sound horrible, to put it mildly
Hello Maria, beautiful interpretation, I think this guitar is a better option to the silent, I think you need to work on the power of sound; the way you do the harmonics seems very practical, although I fit in better with the way that the teacher Delcamp explained us.
Greetings. :D

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