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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Chu Bun » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:36 am

DaveMoutrie wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:05 pm
I'm sure this piece needs to be played a bit faster
I don't think you ever have problem with speed. For example, in this case, the prof's piece was 1 min, yours is 50 secs!

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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by DaveMoutrie » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:41 pm

Andrei Puhach wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:57 am
DaveMoutrie wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:05 pm
Here is my attempt at the Sor - I apologise if I have not participated much just lately. My father in law died last month - we spent a lot of time visiting the hospital and now there is probate, clearing out a house selling his car etc etc etc.
So a few buzzes here and there and I'm sure this piece needs to be played a bit faster but exams are just around the corner and I have much catching up to do.






Wow, that was so good! How did you manage to learn it so fast? I need way more time to learn a piece..
This is one that I played in a previous life so I had the advantage there.

Unfortunately, I don't have the skills to sight read several bars ahead and play at the same time, so I have to memorise every piece I play. With the Bararolle it has taken me 3 days to get to the stage where I am confident to play without looking at the music. I will be posting that one shortly, though it is far from perfect.
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by DaveMoutrie » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:47 pm

Chu Bun wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:36 am
DaveMoutrie wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:05 pm
I'm sure this piece needs to be played a bit faster
I don't think you ever have problem with speed. For example, in this case, the prof's piece was 1 min, yours is 50 secs!
Thank you for your comment Chu, I always try and make a concious effort to slow down for recording - I tend to play too fast when I'm nervous and that of course leeds to mistakes.
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by DaveMoutrie » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:14 pm

Here is my version of the Barcarolle - I think there are one or two notes missing in the harmony and the odd one added, but after 3 days practice its is starting to get somewhere close.

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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by DaveMoutrie » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:29 pm

DaveMoutrie wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:14 pm
Here is my version of the Barcarolle - I think there are one or two notes missing in the harmony and the odd one added, but after 3 days practice its is starting to get somewhere close.

Bummmer!!! just realised I missed out all the rests
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by DaveMoutrie » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:36 pm

Andrei Puhach wrote:
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Lu primm'ammore seems to be ok, but still has some really awkward LH acrobatics. Also, I don't understand measure 2: why A + G are in a rectangle and what is this line from D (previous measure) to G? These are different strings, it cannot be glissando or something.
The rectange indicates a passage which is difficult and needs to be practiced, the line runs from the open D to the * indicating that the open D is to be damped.
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Colin Bullock » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:30 am

DaveMoutrie wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:14 pm
Here is my version of the Barcarolle - I think there are one or two notes missing in the harmony and the odd one added, but after 3 days practice its is starting to get somewhere close.
Beautiful.
You spotted the rests. From standing start to this in 3 days is impressive, I've played it through a few times and just getting the feel of the piece.

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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Andrei Puhach » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:14 am

DaveMoutrie wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:14 pm
Here is my version of the Barcarolle - I think there are one or two notes missing in the harmony and the odd one added, but after 3 days practice its is starting to get somewhere close.
Dave, may I ask you to do a favor to relocate the camera (or change your sitting position) so that your right hand is more visible? It would be nice to see how you attack the strings. Thanks!
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by DaveMoutrie » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:54 pm

Andrei Puhach wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:14 am
DaveMoutrie wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:14 pm
Here is my version of the Barcarolle - I think there are one or two notes missing in the harmony and the odd one added, but after 3 days practice its is starting to get somewhere close.
Dave, may I ask you to do a favor to relocate the camera (or change your sitting position) so that your right hand is more visible? It would be nice to see how you attack the strings. Thanks!
OK I'll give it a try...



Is this position any better?
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Andrei Puhach » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:40 am

DaveMoutrie wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:54 pm
Andrei Puhach wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:14 am
DaveMoutrie wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:14 pm
Here is my version of the Barcarolle - I think there are one or two notes missing in the harmony and the odd one added, but after 3 days practice its is starting to get somewhere close.
Dave, may I ask you to do a favor to relocate the camera (or change your sitting position) so that your right hand is more visible? It would be nice to see how you attack the strings. Thanks!
OK I'll give it a try...



Is this position any better?
Wow, nice, thank you, Dave!! Your right hand is so much more visible now. In previous videos it was almost impossible to see what your fingers were doing. Now you can receive much more critical feedback :)

The rendition is good! All rests are there, but I'd say you play the last note of these measures more like a 16th and the rest is a dotted 8th. Musically, it might be even better though (highlighting the character of the music).
I noticed that sometimes you keep the RH index finger at a distance from strings and it is not very relaxed.
Also, in that sequence of 16ths you do not do RH finger alternation. That's ok for this piece, but if you are to play faster passages that might be an issue.

Thanks again for changing the position!
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by DaveMoutrie » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:24 am

Andrei Puhach wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:14 am
Wow, nice, thank you, Dave!! Your right hand is so much more visible now. In previous videos it was almost impossible to see what your fingers were doing. Now you can receive much more critical feedback :)
Ha ha, somehow I knew that was coming, but of course one of the great things about Delcamp is the excellent critique which hopefully helps us all to improve. So thank you for your excellent hawk eyed observations which are certainly very much appreciated.
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The rendition is good! All rests are there, but I'd say you play the last note of these measures more like a 16th and the rest is a dotted 8th. Musically, it might be even better though (highlighting the character of the music).
I noticed that sometimes you keep the RH index finger at a distance from strings and it is not very relaxed.
Also, in that sequence of 16ths you do not do RH finger alternation. That's ok for this piece, but if you are to play faster passages that might be an issue.

You are quite right about relaxing the right hand more - in fact I have a problem with relaxing with both hands and in deed relaxing in general while playing. This leads to fly away fingers in both hands and jerky rather than smooth movements.
Is there a book out there somewhere called Zen and the art of classical guitar playing or perhaps meditation and relaxation for the classical guitarist?

As for the 16th notes, I listened to Jean Francois after listening to my recording and this is quite apparent. I rushed into recording the piece (hence the mistake at the end) and didn't bother to count my beats.

I would like to re record this piece, but there is one more piece to do for this month and of course I have many more pieces to record in order to play catch up ready for the exam. I'm not sure when the pieces will be announced but I'm sure it will not be long now.

Thanks again Andrei for taking the time to critique my post. I look forward to hearing your renditions. :D
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Andrei Puhach » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:46 am

DaveMoutrie wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:24 am
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Thanks again Andrei for taking the time to critique my post. I look forward to hearing your renditions. :D
I'm a little behind, but getting closer to finishing 2 pieces. I started learning pieces from the end and trying to solidify that as much as possible. Hopefully, this will dramatically decrease the number of takes, as usually toward the end we tend to make mistakes.
Also, today I damaged by 'i' nail a bit. Swiss silk + superglue should do the trick, so I'll continue practicing.
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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Chu Bun » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:53 am

My submissions for this month. Please give comments.
I think half of the dampings were missing and there were quite a few dead/wrong notes. But it's the end of the month, so here they are:






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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Colin Bullock » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Chu Bun wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:53 am
My submissions for this month. Please give comments.
I think half of the dampings were missing and there were quite a few dead/wrong notes. But it's the end of the month, so here they are:
Nicely played. I'm watching your ma fingers in the exercise as I'm trying to work out the best alternation. You've given me some ideas.
In the LuPrimm I'm not sure about the timing in 1st few bars. Are you holding the first 2 notes of each bar for full length, sounds very even on timing. I've just started looking at this and find the timng surprisingly tricky to get right.

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Re: D04 Classical guitar lesson 06

Post by Andrei Puhach » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:55 am

Did not manage to record assignments yet, but got a picture with David Russell (!) :) Assignments coming in a couple days.
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