Keep Toes Off The Levers

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Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Pat Dodson » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:50 pm

Amused to see this sign in a well known Coffee House:

"Our baristas handcraft every coffee"

Language evolving or degraded? :?

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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Andrew Fryer » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:57 pm

Mine says "We serve your coffee any way you like it"

They are liars: I like mine quickly.
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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by bear » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:40 pm

Pat Dodson wrote:Amused to see this sign in a well known Coffee House:

"Our baristas handcraft every coffee"

Language evolving or degraded? :?
How do they do that?
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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Pat Dodson » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:06 pm

bear wrote:
Pat Dodson wrote:Amused to see this sign in a well known Coffee House:

"Our baristas handcraft every coffee"

Language evolving or degraded? :?
How do they do that?
Well, quite.

A definition of handcraft is
› a ​skilled ​activity in which something is made in a ​traditional way with the ​hands ​rather than being ​produced by ​machines in a ​factory,

Well the Coffee House isn't a factory and although there is a machine which runs boiling water through ground coffee, I suppose it isn't automated but a person loads it and presses buttons and pours milk etc.

The question I guess is how skilled is that? (Definitions of "skilled" lead to definitions of "specialised" and "expert" and on and on.) I want say - "not very" but perhaps I'm mean?

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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Steve Kutzer » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:01 pm

An exceptional latte is definitely the product of skill and experience.

I don't understand this thread title?
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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by simonm » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:28 pm

Steve Kutzer wrote:An exceptional latte is definitely the product of skill and experience.
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Just remember that if you order a "latte" in Italy you might well get exactly what you are asking for. Fortunately it is completely caffeine free. I am sure the cow would appreciate the compliment.

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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Pat Dodson » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:42 pm

Steve Kutzer wrote:An exceptional latte is definitely the product of skill and experience.

I don't understand this thread title?
Ah well I only drink black coffee so I didn't know that. Thanks.

When I order an Americano the actions of the baristas are very few and don't seem to amount to a craft but they certainly involve their hands rather than their feet. :desole:

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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by khayes » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:56 pm

Steve Kutzer wrote: ...I don't understand this thread title?
Neither do I :?:
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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Pat Dodson » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:23 pm

khayes wrote:
Steve Kutzer wrote: ...I don't understand this thread title?
Neither do I :?:
OK

It seemed to me (before Steve's post) that if pressing levers on a coffee machine constitutes a craft and using your hand to do that makes it a handcraft (cf the skills of a luthier) then to meet the sign's assertion it'd be vital not to press the levers with anything except your hands.

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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by mc1 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:01 am

lever pressing is more art than science. those guys are artists.

and good coffee is 10% inspiration, 90% perspiration. really great coffee has more inspiration.

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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Kent » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:05 am

I prefer my coffee has no perspiration.

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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by bear » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:57 am

I drink 8-12 espresso's per day, pour in the coffee and the water and push a button. I haven't recognized the skill part.
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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Andrew Fryer » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:53 am

[hit quote instead of edit]
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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Anthony Campanella » Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:55 pm

Ridiculous corporate comments aside, the baristas can be very skilled - like a barkeeper, or sommelier - knowing how to make any number of delicious drinks - just the way you like it . Quality of service may be a skill in itself, as rare as good coffee, an inspiration to the downtrodden
Trying to be charitable here!
Footcraft though, has no place in the kitchen thankfully, its good for walking, running, driving, fighting, dancing, and especially washing
What were you thinking Pat?

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Re: Keep Toes Off The Levers

Post by Pat Dodson » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:57 pm

Anthony Campanella wrote: What were you thinking Pat?
I was thinking "handcraft" was perhaps a Humpty Dumpty word and hoped it'd been well paid.

'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.' :)

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