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guitar on the radio

Post by dory » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:52 pm

I am not sure what your experiences with classical music stations on the radio have been. I have been hearing more and more classical guitar on our local classical music station. When I was younger there might have been a guitar piece on the radio once a month or less, I think. In addition I avoided the station because I kept feeling like I would hear Beethoven's 9th, the Four Seasons or Pachebel's Canon-- all fine pieces but overplayed. Yesterday I was out doing errands and there were three guitar pieces during my 45 minute trip-- and not one was Asturias or Recuerdos. There aren't as many as piano pieces but I see a great improvement (from my not so piano-oriented perspective-- although I actually like solo piano.) I doubt there will ever be as much guitar as orchestral or piano pieces, but I consistently notice more and more. Are you also hearing more guitar on the radio? Also the selection of music on our classical music channel has gotten much more interesting-- not just counting guitar.I actually seek the channel out now.

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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by Andrew Pohlman » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:31 pm

Not in general. At Christmas time, our local classical station plays a bunch of Christmas songs arranged for classical guitar. Many are straight from the book Nutcracker Suite For Solo Classical Guitar by Tony D'Addono. In truth they are awesome arrangements. But no, normally there are seriously few guitar pieces on our local classical radio station - at least during the times I listen. Maybe they play guitar tunes at 2 AM. :D
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Post by Alan Green » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:57 pm

We have two classical music stations in the UK - Classic FM play wall-to-wall tubthumping pianists on an ego trip, and BBC Radio 3 play the occasional guitar piece (and sometimes repeats of an Ana Vidovic performance at a Scandinavian festival) but nothing you haven't heard a thousand times before. The CG community is poorly served.

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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:26 pm

In the 70s and 80s BBC Radio 3 used to broadcast a regular half hour, repeated later in the week, which somehow I never got to hear when it would have been helpful, e.g. in my teens, though latterly I did tape a great many. That stopped and the instrument was told to hold its own and not have a specialised niche, which meant it largely disappeared, with very occasional notable exceptions, including Sean Shibe.
Classic FM, which has been discussed above and well as on another thread does actually play quite a lot of some players, with whom they have commercial arrangements to some extent.
Is it possible your local station has employed a particular individual with experience of guitar? A lot of times its not the presenter who makes the choice, but producers and other controllers in the background. You could even ask them and encourage them to do more, stations esp local ones often like that kind of feedback.
I played my baroque guitar on a very small local station a while ago, I suspect the audience was in single figures. Made it low stress!
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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by sxedio » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:12 pm

I don't listen to Classic FM that regularly but whenever I heard guitar on it it was Fantasia para un Gentilhombre.
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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by ragdoll serenade » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:14 am

KUSC from Los Angeles plays a fair amount of guitar music. This morning I listened to Sharon Isbin playing Villa Lobos' concerto.

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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by dory » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:46 pm

Those of us who get some are incredibly lucky, then. We not only get stuff but it is interesting. I wonder why? The only thing I can think of is that the guitar scene in Milwaukee where about 1/2 the programs for Wisconsin Public Radio are produced is incredibly good thanks to René Izquierdo. However, I think a lot of the classical music programs are produced in Madison where the guitar scene is less active, although the guitar society works hard.

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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by AndreiKrylov » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:30 pm

Nowadays anyone could listen classical guitar as much as one wishes on streaming like Spotify, Deezer, etc.
With subscription or free... supported by income from ads.
I prefer this to Radio.
I had a free choice of music which I want, unlike radio which feeds me with things I may not like.
My advice will be to use streaming.
Radio is thing of the past...
and even Classic FM radio stations will feed us with Music promoted by big labels (classical too) not independent artists,
it may also push all kind of "standard" opinions and historical/intellectual construction many of which are completely outdated and wrong...
I'd better speak by music...Please listen my guitar at Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, etc.

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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by robin loops » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:20 pm

My theory is: Classical music stations would be smarter to play even more guitar pieces as solo guitar is often more palatable to non classical music fans than most other works. Especially true of Romantic and contemporary pieces. The conundrum is that many classical elitists disregard the guitar as a serious classical instrument (more so in the past). So it can be a balancing act between pleasing the elitists (the base of their listeners) and attracting non classical listeners. As time goes the stigma against the guitar has diminished so this has become less of a gamble.
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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by Mickmac » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:53 am

The problem with Classic FM and other popular classics stations is that they will only play a very small chunk of even the classical guitar standards: Romanza, RDLA, 2nd Movt of the Concierto de Aranjuez, that kinda thing. It'll also play tracks from newly released albums that it is paid to plug by the labels. So if Milos Karadaglic puts out a new album it'll get some play. I'm not sure it really does anything to promote the instrument.

I've often thought that pop classics station listeners are like the folks who watch cooking competition shows. They like the food but would never dream of actually cooking themselves. BBC Radio 3 does show case a wider range of reportoire even if only on an occasional basis. I think the BBC 3 audience is more like the people who watch cooking shows for the recipes. BBC 3 listeners are more likely to actually play an instrument or sing in choir or whatever. BBC 3 is more likely to take requests for music you'd like to hear. Pop classics stations have a play list with little room to manouver.

I think when it comes down to it, pop classics stations are beholden to the advertisers, so there playlist must be lowest common denominator to appeal to the greatest number of listeners. BBC 3 is paid for by the licence fee. It can afford to specialize and experiment a bit. I hope this never changes. I'd be lost without it.

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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by Peter Lovett » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:26 am

In Australia we have basically one classical music station, ABC Classic FM (there are also local FM stations that play some classical music but not to any great extent) and it actually plays a wide variety of classical guitar music. Most of it is contemporary but to a lesser degree the "classics" as well. Only this morning I heard a piece I hadn't heard before by a composer I hadn't heard of but I had heard of the performer. To my chagrin, the composer is head of composition at the local conservatorium of music and the performer is head of classical guitar at the same institution. He also plays in the local guitar society of which I am a member. I shall be asking him about the piece on Sunday when we meet.
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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by PeteJ » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:48 pm

These days it's Head Office that decides what gets played. If DJs did the choosing radio would be more interesting, but its money that determines the playlist. Payola is now the official business-model.

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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by Peskyendeavour » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:10 pm

So on Sunday just gone, I was pleasantly surprised that radio 2 started to play concierto aranjuez, only then to be cut just before climax point for 8 o'clock news. I was so cross that I complained that DJ's ought to know length of track before playing music and not cut for a known upcoming chime for news. It's not like they are surprised by the arrival of 8 o'clock ? I'm not sure if that would put them off playing classical tracks (which are normally longer) or make sure they play the whole thing. As I was obviously enjoying it. By whole thing I think one can only mean one movement. As radio goes, you are trying to please a wide audience - so it's hard to play whole way through and not loose some folk, if they are more interested in the flute or something. There is a section of radio 3 I think is dedicated to playing all the way through of whatever. When they decide to play opera they have a very different audience to orchestral or single solo instrumental. I don't listen that often nowadays. I seem to stream music or buy CDs of things I like.

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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by Rick Hutt » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:53 pm

I really feel fortunate to be an avid listener (and supporter) of WFMT, here in Chicago. There is often a classical guitar piece and not just by the "big names" and also by independent labels. The announcers are adept at pronunciation as well, always a plus.
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Re: guitar on the radio

Post by martinardo » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:58 pm

In Australia we have basically one classical music station, ABC Classic FM
Further to Peter comments: this network covers almost all of Australia. So Bruce

in Darwin might be listening to the same guitar piece as Alice in Perth and also

Gary in Parkes, Peter in Hobart and me in south-west Victoria. Often played by

local musicians and of course, at other times, foreigners. And it costs us a little more

than 8 cents a day. :)
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