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Re: Losing weight

Post by cedartop » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:10 am

I have been a diabetic (Type 2) for 32 years. When diagnosed, I weighed 235 lbs. I now weight 158 lbs., though before Christmas it was less :). The thing that helped me get over my weight loss stall was intermittent fasting (in addition to already eating a low-carb diet). I recommend you check out Dr. Jason Fung's videos and book on the subject. He is a Canadian Nephrologist who necessarily sees and treats a lot of diabetics. I'm not going to get in a battle about diets here, just a fellow traveler suggesting that you check out what you find and consider it.
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Re: Losing weight

Post by mts132 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:11 pm

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
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Hello all, my name is Scott and I'm a fat guy. However, I'm not as fat as I was just a couple of years ago. At my heaviest I was 335lbs. That was just over two years ago. I am now at 271lbs and I continue to loose weight, bit by bit.

I seem to have hit a plateau, though, as I am only about one pound lighter than I was last month. Same situation the month before. I was losing about 3 to 5 pounds a month before. My doctor is happy to see me losing the weight, and he says that losing it gradually, like I am, is the only way to loose it and not gain it back. But, I am getting frustrated. I want to loose it faster. I can't exercise anymore than I am, and I'm not eating too much. I am diabetic and I eat a proper diet. I don't eat fast food (anymore). If I could just get below 270lbs, I think I would continue to loose weight. It just seems that I am hovering where I am at. Anybody else dealing with This? I am 6ft 1inch, by the way. My goal is to get down to 200 lbs.
My weight loss regime began at the end of September. Started at 275 and now I'm down to about 250. My target is 200, just like you. Also just like you, I hit a plateau around 257 but got past it with 2 things: staying active and using the myfitnesspal app. The app (or any app that provides the same functionality)has been the most helpful because I can now track everything I eat and do. You should try it out because I suspect you're consuming more calories and fat than you think, which is exactly what happened to me. Let me ask you a question. Why be so frustrated when you've lost so much already? 60+ lbs off your body is a MAJOR accomplishment and you need to use that to get further. Don't let the cravings stop you, don't let people stop you, and 100% don't let the unavoidable depression that naturally goes along with being obese stop you. The last one is a killer because it's always there even when you feel good. You need to be driven and you need to know your goal. My goal is to not to die b/c that's the road I (and you) was traveling. I want to see my younger family members and friends grow old. I want to experience there lives and not to mention, I don't feel comfortable with all this weight. I never have.
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Re: Losing weight

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Hi dad69.. I was breathing CM and that was what was keeping me up all night)
Wow, do you mean carbon monoxide CO? I almost died of CO poisoning once. Be damn careful with that. I don’t know if I mentioned it earlier, but the Dr. Took me off metformin and put me on Actos. I also take 16 units of glargine (aka Lantus) which is a long acting insulin, every morning. I keep going into shock when my blood sugar gets to a certain low point, so we are trying to get my A1C down ever so slowly. Same deal with the weight....slowly. I weighed myself this morning. 267.2 lbs. I see the endocrinologist again in April. I will see my primary soon.

I don’t know how else to describe what I went through yesterday, other than shock. I was ice cold, shivering and sweating profusely, and was nauseated. When my blood sugar drops to about 200, I go through this, and by the time I reach 130, it usually subsides. But I also suffer from hypoglycemia, so each day is a constant juggling act of eating, checking my blood sugar 6 to 8 times a day, and trying not to let my blood sugar get too low, or too high. I do best if I eat 6 extremely small meals a day. I am going to ask about regular insulin, as I feel I could have more control over how I feel.

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Re: Losing weight

Post by David Gutowski » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:51 am

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:38 pm
David Gutowski wrote:
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Hi dad69.. I was breathing CM and that was what was keeping me up all night)
Wow, do you mean carbon monoxide CO? I almost died of CO poisoning once. Be damn careful with that. I don’t know if I mentioned it earlier, but the Dr. Took me off metformin and put me on Actos. I also take 16 units of glargine (aka Lantus) which is a long acting insulin, every morning. I keep going into shock when my blood sugar gets to a certain low point, so we are trying to get my A1C down ever so slowly. Same deal with the weight....slowly. I weighed myself this morning. 267.2 lbs. I see the endocrinologist again in April. I will see my primary soon.

I don’t know how else to describe what I went through yesterday, other than shock. I was ice cold, shivering and sweating profusely, and was nauseated. When my blood sugar drops to about 200, I go through this, and by the time I reach 130, it usually subsides. But I also suffer from hypoglycemia, so each day is a constant juggling act of eating, checking my blood sugar 6 to 8 times a day, and trying not to let my blood sugar get too low, or too high. I do best if I eat 6 extremely small meals a day. I am going to ask about regular insulin, as I feel I could have more control over how I feel.
Yes, it was CO carbon monoxide from a natural gas pool heater and never really thought about it because couldn't smell it...it did smell a little funny some times but nothing that would alarm you just kept me from going to sleep, that and the heat from the hot tub before bed... got my body too warm. But much better now, using a huge fan to redirect the fumes and swim in daylight hours.

Sorry to hear about you going into shock and it is a very serious issue. I lost a good friend from low blood sugar, at least that's what we think happened. She was sitting most of the afternoon in the sun getting a tan and drinking vodka and they found her passed out and she died...she was not that drunk but probably skipped lunch and was not drinking water and was taking her meds but doc said her blood sugar went real low and it put her in a diabetic coma and no one was around to help her. Be careful with your blood sugar...I'm on met and glipizide and keeping it under control. I have a brother in law that just gave up on oral pills and went straight to insulin shots and he is constantly checking his sugar levels...and he can't go back to the pills. Eating small meals a day I think they call it" grazing"...did you get a chance to check out Maca root it helps with blood sugar...they don't advertise it for that but it has helped me. Only need one tablespoon a day add to your smoothies and get some Vega One plant based protein powder (has no sieva) and you have to add a little sweetener, I use Pure Monk Fruit (don't need much) and vanilla and it taste great (Amazon)...smoothies are the very best and efficient way to get nutrients into the body without raising blood sugar levels...I mix it with 2% milk and sometimes I think that's all I need for the day. But steak and other foods win out and I give in.

Keep on top of it and I do know the struggle but don't want to think of the alternative. Which reminds me, I was taking melatonin to help with my sleep problem and read up on it and what they said about depression and vivid dreams is correct...you wouldn't believe the dreams...constantly getting attacked by monsters and fighting them off and the like... and depression during the day with slight crying spells...I thought I was turning into a woman with my up and down emotions and my wife gave me some funny looks and offered sympathy but getting better. I have experienced depression before but never so suddenly...and I feel for people who are depressed.

Sorry...going on too long...nice talking with you; perfect stranger I've never met but have so much in common with...one of the reasons I love this forum...good luck and again, be careful with the blood sugar levels.
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Re: Losing weight

Post by Scott Phillips » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:51 am

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Yes, it was CO carbon monoxide from a natural gas pool heater and never really thought about it because couldn't smell it...
Yeah David, I used to drive an 18 wheeler. I got stuck on Elk Mountain, just outside Rawlins WY, due to a wreck. Three trucks were involved. It was winter, and blizzard conditions. We all sat idling on the mountain for about 5 hours waiting for crews to clear the road. By the time the road was clear I was sick, like I was going to throw up. Twenty minutes more and I was in the truck stop and went in to use the bathroom. I saw myself in the mirror and my face was red, like cherry pie filling. I got myself to the hospital. They did a blood gas and it turned out I had CO poisoning. It turned out that I had a bad exhaust leak in my truck. I was so sleepy too. They said I was lucky that I didn’t go to sleep in the truck, and not wake up.

I was in the hospital overnight, and wound up in a hotel for three more days, while they got the parts to fix my truck. I was either extremely lucky, or extremely blessed👍🏻😁😀😃

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Re: Losing weight

Post by David Gutowski » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:17 am

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:51 am
David Gutowski wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:51 am
Yes, it was CO carbon monoxide from a natural gas pool heater and never really thought about it because couldn't smell it...
Yeah David, I used to drive an 18 wheeler. I got stuck on Elk Mountain, just outside Rawlins WY, due to a wreck. Three trucks were involved. It was winter, and blizzard conditions. We all sat idling on the mountain for about 5 hours waiting for crews to clear the road. By the time the road was clear I was sick, like I was going to throw up. Twenty minutes more and I was in the truck stop and went in to use the bathroom. I saw myself in the mirror and my face was red, like cherry pie filling. I got myself to the hospital. They did a blood gas and it turned out I had CO poisoning. It turned out that I had a bad exhaust leak in my truck. I was so sleepy too. They said I was lucky that I didn’t go to sleep in the truck, and not wake up.

I was in the hospital overnight, and wound up in a hotel for three more days, while they got the parts to fix my truck. I was either extremely lucky, or extremely blessed👍🏻😁😀😃
Probably both, extremely lucky and blessed. One main reason I went to college and became a special education teacher and taught for 40 years was because I felt lucky...and, I guess a little blessed. Remind me to tell you some of my war stories. I lost count of the times I came back from fire missions or flight escort duty with my helo all shot up...not to mention the loss of some good pilots and crew members on the aircraft... and here was I, unscathed with all my body parts-ready to do it all again the next day for thirteen months. Of course, at that time I just turned twenty-one and felt invincible...and as it turned out, I was...and lucky.

Did you order some Maca powder? It's a dried root and does help with what we have...and the smoothies flavored with Pure Monk Fruit (best brand called 138 Amazon)...and get some Vega One plant based protein mix...it all helps.
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Re: Losing weight

Post by Scott Phillips » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:50 pm

David Gutowski wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:17 am
Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:51 am
David Gutowski wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:51 am
Yes, it was CO carbon monoxide from a natural gas pool heater and never really thought about it because couldn't smell it...
Yeah David, I used to drive an 18 wheeler. I got stuck on Elk Mountain, just outside Rawlins WY, due to a wreck. Three trucks were involved. It was winter, and blizzard conditions. We all sat idling on the mountain for about 5 hours waiting for crews to clear the road. By the time the road was clear I was sick, like I was going to throw up. Twenty minutes more and I was in the truck stop and went in to use the bathroom. I saw myself in the mirror and my face was red, like cherry pie filling. I got myself to the hospital. They did a blood gas and it turned out I had CO poisoning. It turned out that I had a bad exhaust leak in my truck. I was so sleepy too. They said I was lucky that I didn’t go to sleep in the truck, and not wake up.

I was in the hospital overnight, and wound up in a hotel for three more days, while they got the parts to fix my truck. I was either extremely lucky, or extremely blessed👍🏻😁😀😃
Probably both, extremely lucky and blessed. One main reason I went to college and became a special education teacher and taught for 40 years was because I felt lucky...and, I guess a little blessed. Remind me to tell you some of my war stories. I lost count of the times I came back from fire missions or flight escort duty with my helo all shot up...not to mention the loss of some good pilots and crew members on the aircraft... and here was I, unscathed with all my body parts-ready to do it all again the next day for thirteen months. Of course, at that time I just turned twenty-one and felt invincible...and as it turned out, I was...and lucky.

Did you order some Maca powder? It's a dried root and does help with what we have...and the smoothies flavored with Pure Monk Fruit (best brand called 138 Amazon)...and get some Vega One plant based protein mix...it all helps.
I haven't ordered the maca powder yet. I need to talk with my endocrinologist first, and I don't see her until April. You aren't the first to recommend it. There are others on this forum who use it. I am on 19 different medications, so I have to run everything by her, even natural and over the counter items.

My son is in the infantry, and he's had some interesting stories. He is a rifleman and SAW operator. He will be going to the board for Sargeant soon. And he is having Lasik done in about a week. He is hoping to make Warrant, as he wants to fly Apaches. He is currently on his second enlistment as of this month.

I was in the Air Force. I was in medical. I was a nurse. I never saw any action, or even deployment, as I worked in women's health. I was the only male that lasted more than two months at that job. I actually did it for two years. Then when I got out, I couldn't find work in women's health, as I was too male. So I went to school and became a Respiratory Therapist. It was nice not having to do enemas or other things in peoples nether regions.

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Re: Losing weight

Post by David Gutowski » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:41 am

Hi Scott...thanks for the heads up on the discount. Hope your son makes pilot. I was a crew chief on a Huey helo and did have some memorable days flying. I was looking for a low dose melatonin and called the number on the bottle (found 300 mcg brand) and the agent told me there are several other things you can use for sleep problems. He recommended glycine or bioactive milk peptides as a substitute because mel does have some side effects, but after more research on my part, I came across a product that helps stabilize blood sugar. It's called Milk Thistle. I, of course, ordered some. When you get time, look it up or ask your doctor about it...and I'll let you know if it helps. It's originally designed to clean the liver but also helps with diabetes...so they say.
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Re: Losing weight

Post by Scott Phillips » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:52 am

266.8 lbs. That’s what the scale read today. I only have about 15 lbs to go on my way to 250 lbs. I’m finding that I am eating smaller portions. So maybe I will get there a little quicker. 68.2 lbs gone.

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Re: Losing weight

Post by David Gutowski » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:01 am

Hi Scott...congratulations coming close to your weight goals. I may be joining your club. My perfect diabetic friendly, delicious candy has one major draw back: (or maybe two) high in calories; and I'm gaining weight. But I've also noticed a side effect with the cacao butter I use for the candy and I should have gotten a clue when I washed my hands after making (could be my imagination). It's very hard to wash off and I think that's why people use it for skin cream. Following that logic, what do you think it does to your insides? Does the body break it down? It may be coating my intestines. If it coats the intestines your body can't absorb nutrients.

On the reverse, that might be a good way to lose weight...coat your insides with delicious cacao butter...only side effect is could kill you from starvation. I notice when I press down on my finger tips, my skin doesn't come back up-just stays depressed for a moment. I do drink a lot of water so I'm not dehydrated. I see you worked in the medical field. Have any ideas on what causes your body not to absorb nutrients? Could it be cacao butter...oh, please don't say it does! I live for my candy...especially since I quit drinking-been almost three years now. But if my body is not absorbing nutrients, why am I gaining weight?
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Re: Losing weight

Post by Scott Phillips » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:47 am

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I see you worked in the medical field. Have any ideas on what causes your body not to absorb nutrients? Could it be cacao butter...oh, please don't say it does! I live for my candy...especially since I quit drinking-been almost three years now. But if my body is not absorbing nutrients, why am I gaining weight?
I am afraid I don't have any advise regarding the cacao butter or your candy. I was a nurse, but I worked in women's health and post surgical, and I also worked as a Respiratory Therapist. Congratulations on giving up the drink. I think that would be more important, as far as health effects, than the candy/cacao butter. I have pretty much given up alcohol as well.

If you've been cutting back on the amount that you are eating, depending on how much, your metabolism can slow, in which case you could wind up gaining some weight. What's your doc say?
I think that a large part of the reason I have been able to continue to loose weight is that I eat more than I did and most of my carbs that I eat are complex and they take more energy to process. I also am eating about 6 times a day, in small amounts. I also eat in response to my blood sugar. If my blood sugar is high, i dont eat then, but if it is low, i have to eat regardless of whether i am hungry or not. I check mjy suhat 6 tom8 times a day.

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Re: Losing weight

Post by Scott Phillips » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:25 am

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Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:01 am
Hi Scott...congratulations coming close to your weight goals. I may be joining your club. My perfect diabetic friendly, delicious candy has one major draw back: (or maybe two) high in calories; and I'm gaining weight. But I've also noticed a side effect with the cacao butter I use for the candy and I should have gotten a clue when I washed my hands after making (could be my imagination). It's very hard to wash off and I think that's why people use it for skin cream. Following that logic, what do you think it does to your insides? Does the body break it down? It may be coating my intestines. If it coats the intestines your body can't absorb nutrients.

On the reverse, that might be a good way to lose weight...coat your insides with delicious cacao butter...only side effect is could kill you from starvation. I notice when I press down on my finger tips, my skin doesn't come back up-just stays depressed for a moment. I do drink a lot of water so I'm not dehydrated. I see you worked in the medical field. Have any ideas on what causes your body not to absorb nutrients? Could it be cacao butter...oh, please don't say it does! I live for my candy...especially since I quit drinking-been almost three years now. But if my body is not absorbing nutrients, why am I gaining weight?
Hey David, I don’t know why I didn’t think to tell you this sooner, but the cacao butter will not likely coat your intestines as it is broken down by the acid in the stomach, which is about like car battery acid if you want an acid to compare it to. Oh, and if you want to test for dehydration, look at the veins in your hands. Are they sunken? Also, pinch the skin on the top of the forearm. Does it tent? I mean does it stay standing up when you let go of it? That is a sure sign of dehydration. Take care,
Scott

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Re: Losing weight

Post by David Gutowski » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:57 am

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:25 am
David Gutowski wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:01 am
Hi Scott...congratulations coming close to your weight goals. I may be joining your club. My perfect diabetic friendly, delicious candy has one major draw back: (or maybe two) high in calories; and I'm gaining weight. But I've also noticed a side effect with the cacao butter I use for the candy and I should have gotten a clue when I washed my hands after making (could be my imagination). It's very hard to wash off and I think that's why people use it for skin cream. Following that logic, what do you think it does to your insides? Does the body break it down? It may be coating my intestines. If it coats the intestines your body can't absorb nutrients.

On the reverse, that might be a good way to lose weight...coat your insides with delicious cacao butter...only side effect is could kill you from starvation. I notice when I press down on my finger tips, my skin doesn't come back up-just stays depressed for a moment. I do drink a lot of water so I'm not dehydrated. I see you worked in the medical field. Have any ideas on what causes your body not to absorb nutrients? Could it be cacao butter...oh, please don't say it does! I live for my candy...especially since I quit drinking-been almost three years now. But if my body is not absorbing nutrients, why am I gaining weight?
Hey David, I don’t know why I didn’t think to tell you this sooner, but the cacao butter will not likely coat your intestines as it is broken down by the acid in the stomach, which is about like car battery acid if you want an acid to compare it to. Oh, and if you want to test for dehydration, look at the veins in your hands. Are they sunken? Also, pinch the skin on the top of the forearm. Does it tent? I mean does it stay standing up when you let go of it? That is a sure sign of dehydration. Take care,
Scott
That is such good news about the cacao butter thanks...I'm back to eating my candy tomorrow.
Yes, my skin tents up and stays that way for a long moment...wow, thanks again, never noticed it before or even knew you could do that. My veins don't seem to be sunken in... I better start drinking more fluids-I thought I was getting enough but probably not and I'm going to add some salt to my water jug I keep in the frig...it'll be like home made Gatorade at a fraction of the cost...also bought some great fish oil pills that dissolve in the intestines so you don't have that fish oil after taste...darn-I'm starting to sound like my old aunt that was obsessed with diet supplements and health and I'm only 36!

Thanks again Scott,
David
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Re: Losing weight

Post by Scott Phillips » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:46 am

Well I’m back up to 272lbs. The Dr put me on a new medication some time ago, and said eventually I would probably gain some weight on it. But I don’t see the Dr. For another 3 weeks. I’ve almost got my A1C down to goal. And I haven’t been having the shock symptoms. The medication that she put me on helps to get rid of fatty liver she says. So I may lose some weight after awhile just from that.

You know it’s funny, but at a performance by Sharon Isbin last summer, she wanted the guitar players to come up to the front so we could watch her hands. When I went up to the front row, this woman calls out “Sure, the BIG guy has to sit up front!” I was so embarrassed and went to sit back behind her. You should have seen the look of what looked to me to be shock on Isbin’s face. That day wasn’t a total loss though as I met my new guitar buddy, and fellow forum member Suzanne G after the performance. But yeah, I am ready to be thin again.

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Re: Losing weight

Post by David Gutowski » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:03 am

Hi Scott...I added two new things to my diet: L Glutamine and Omega 3 fish oil. Did you get a chance to order the Vega One plant based protein smoothie mix?
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