Pyramid strings

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by petermc61 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:08 am

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:so how do the Pyramid medium tension feel under your fingers as compared to the D'addario ej45 medium? In other words, should I get medium pyramids if I'm used to medium D'addario?

whoa, I just went to sbm: these are pricey...those bass strings really better last...
Yes, use medium.

They will last about three times as long as EJ45 and sound better for every one of those hours too.

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by JohnB » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:22 am

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:so how do the Pyramid medium tension feel under your fingers as compared to the D'addario ej45 medium? In other words, should I get medium pyramids if I'm used to medium D'addario?
I'm also interested in the Pyramid strings and have just checked the tensions vs the D'Addario EJ45/EJ44/EJ46, for what it's worth:

D'Addario EJ45 Normal Tension: 6.49 kg (average tension)
D'Addario EJ44 Extra Hard Tension: 6.94 kg
D'Addario EJ46 Hard Tension: 6.80 kg

Pyramid Sterling Silver Nylon Medium Tension: 6.50 kg
Pyramid Sterling Silver Carbon Medium Tension: 7.20 kg

Pyramid Sterling Silver Carbon Medium Tension with Augustine Imperial Medium 1st and 2nd: 6.78 kg *** guess ***

Taking one of Peter's suggestions of using the Pyramid Sterling Silver Carbon 3rd to 6th strings with, say Augustine Imperial Medium 1st and 2nd - I've tried to estimate the likely tension. This is a guess as Augustine only publish the diameters of the strings. I have assumed the density of the Augustine Imperial Mediums is similar to that of the D'Addario strings and interpolated between the tensions of their Normal and High Tension strings, based on their diameters vs those of Augustine Imperial Medium.
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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by simonm » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:29 am

Regarding the Pyramid strings. I just grabbed their catalogue from their site site in German. There is a fair selection of strings but no mention of "sterling silver" - could these be what the German catalogue refers to as "double silver"?

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by Matthew22 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:35 am

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by JohnB » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:46 am

simonm wrote:Regarding the Pyramid strings. I just grabbed their catalogue from their site site in German. There is a fair selection of strings but no mention of "sterling silver" - could these be what the German catalogue refers to as "double silver"?
Simon, the "Super Classic Sterling Silver" strings are on page 19 of the German language pdf catalogue.
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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by petermc61 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:51 am

JohnB wrote:
simonm wrote:Regarding the Pyramid strings. I just grabbed their catalogue from their site site in German. There is a fair selection of strings but no mention of "sterling silver" - could these be what the German catalogue refers to as "double silver"?
Simon, the "Super Classic Sterling Silver" strings are on page 19 of the German language pdf catalogue.
Correct. The Sterling Silver are a more expensive string than the Double Silver, and worth it.

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by simonm » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:11 am

petermc61 wrote:
JohnB wrote:
simonm wrote:Regarding the Pyramid strings. I just grabbed their catalogue from their site site in German. There is a fair selection of strings but no mention of "sterling silver" - could these be what the German catalogue refers to as "double silver"?
Simon, the "Super Classic Sterling Silver" strings are on page 19 of the German language pdf catalogue.
Correct. The Sterling Silver are a more expensive string than the Double Silver, and worth it.
Thanks guys.

I had a look at the pricing. Direct is by far the most expensive. Pre-tax in US dollars would be 27 vs 25 from STBM. However the all known German mail-order site, beginning with Th and ending in mann, have it for what would be about $18 pre-tax. As there is no way for a normal human to escape tax in Europe that is 19 Euros vs 29 Euros for locals for a medium set. STBM would be 22 Euros plus the 20% tax = Euros 26.50

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by JohnB » Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:21 am

I have edited my earlier post re tensions to (a) correct the Pyramid tensions and (b) to try to estimate the average tension when using one of Peter's suggestions: Augustine Imperial Medium 1st and 2nd with Pyramid Sterling Silver Carbon Medium for the other strings (this is at best a "guestimate").
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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by Dofpic » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:21 pm

I agree with Segovia jr the best Carbon trebles I have used especially the high e.
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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:44 pm

Looks like medium D'addario to medium Pyramid is a perfect match! They're in the mail...if I get over 100 hours out of these and they sound as good as Peter says I'll be happy.
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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by petermc61 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:47 pm

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:Looks like medium D'addario to medium Pyramid is a perfect match! They're in the mail...if I get over 100 hours out of these and they sound as good as Peter says I'll be happy.
I get about 60-75 hours out of a set. I don't get more than 25 hours out of D'Addario though.

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:15 pm

O.K this is interesting. I try to get 40 hours out d'addario but my guitar comes alive when I change them after this long. So I started changing bass strings after about 20 hours. The thing is, I thought that such a short string life was the fault of my acid hand sweat. Maybe 25 hours is typical? I've read a variety of things on this.

It doesn't kill me to play with half dead strings but boy I really love it when the strings are alive. My playing improves--it just does because I sound better and it's inspirational.
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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by pug208 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:26 am

First, I must thank Peter for mentioning Pyramid in different threads of this forum. I changed a set of Pyramid medium tension sterling silver on my Sakurai PC. The strings have really made a lot of difference! The guitar has "sung". Before the change, I tried the Optima and found the tension was on the low side. I swapped it out to save for another guitar which might benefit from them.

I also have D'addario exp45 normal tension bass strings on my Sakurai Special. I find the Pyramid might be just slightly lower in tension but the sound is much richer than the exp45.

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by simonm » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:17 pm

pug208 wrote:First, I must thank Peter for mentioning Pyramid in different threads of this forum … Pyramid might be just slightly lower in tension but the sound is much richer than the exp45.
Hmmm ...

Maybe there is a business opportunity for the "Peter & Ramon" for string consultancy. PR Strings for Happy Guitarists !!
Although seeing as they do the work free, the business plan make need some work.

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Re: Pyramid strings

Post by pug208 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:16 am

I however do not think Pyramid is the strings for all. We all know it depends on each guitar and the player.

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