String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Choice of classical guitar strings and technical issues connected with their use.
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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by fast eddie » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:33 am

Just bought a set of these in the US (https://www.rosetteguitarproducts.com) for about $18.00 and installed them today. They were easy to install and I can't tell if they make any difference in the sound, but they look a lot better than the usual knots I tie.
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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by ameriken » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:31 am

I'm using the Rosette ties as well, I like them. I have a tendency to occasionally nick the top when tying strings and that doesn't happen anymore with these.
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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by es335 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:14 am

Another vote for Rosette‘s New Diamand String Ties. It’s a much more reliable realization of the Fana Superchip principle. Just wished the color of the white version would be less harsh! :wink:

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by Beowulf » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:12 pm

On my instrument the Diamond String Ties increase the break angle between the saddle and the tie block slightly. This results in a slight increase in the apparent string tension for the right hand and a little faster action which I prefer.
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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by Jorge Oliveira » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:38 pm

rinneby wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:40 pm
Anyone tried this? Does it work?

http://www.string-tie.com

/J
I use string ties in all my guitars and, yes, Jon, they do work fine. Compared with the traditional string loop, the string tie ensures an higher break angle from the bridge bone. I use Diamond string ties, though, and you can acquire them at GuitarrasdeLuthier in Madrid. A set of seven pieces costs € 15,00 or € 18,00, depending on the model.

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by Jorge Oliveira » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:49 pm

rinneby wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:40 pm
Anyone tried this? Does it work?

http://www.string-tie.com

/J
I use string ties in all my guitars and, yes, Jon, they do work fine. Compared with the traditional string loop, the string tie ensures an higher break angle from the bridge bone. I use Diamond string ties, though, and you can acquire them at GuitarrasdeLuthier in Madrid. A set of seven pieces costs € 15,00 or € 18,00, depending on the model.

Regards,
Jorge
1972 - Kuniharu Nobe #8, 658/51, Spr, IN RW, Tokyo, JP
1979 - Ryoji Matsuoka No.40, 650/51, Ced, IN RW, JP
1987 - Aria A558, 650/51, Ced, lam RW, Nagoya, JP
2014 - Hermanos Camps Master Nº 3, 650/52, CA Ced, MG RW, Banyoles, ES

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:16 pm

I just ordered a set from the link that fast Eddie posted. They were $16.99 with free shipping. I didn’t really need more break angle, but thes just look neat and tidy. And it looks a lot easier.

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:21 am

I put them on, and one thing about them that I don't like is that they don't stay aligned. They move around a little bit. The one that I used for the D string scraped the winding of the string something fierce. They make changing strings go fast. It took about 8 minutes, and most of that time was spent winding the strings. However I can't say I'm a convert yet.

The guitar that I used them on is my daughter's Ramirez. I figured that if a string was gonna snap, better to happen to her guitar as it has many battle scars already, whereas my Ramirez is nearly perfect. The hardest string to tie wasn't the low E. For me it was the G string. I used a double knot on the trebles, and the G was a little thick.

The d string hit the back side of the bridge due to the increased break angle, whereas the string didn't hit it when tied conventionally. Her saddle is pretty low though. I will try these for awhile as I want to try a few different sets of strings on her guitar, and these are less effort.

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by rpavich » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:50 am

Francesco Carlo wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:31 pm
I use these instead. Very light and almost invisible:
http://shop.lucawaldner.com/it/accessor ... lates.html

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Those look pretty good.
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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by es335 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:11 am

Laudiesdad69 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:21 am
...The hardest string to tie wasn't the low E. For me it was the G string. I used a double knot on the trebles, and the G was a little thick...
That’s the least treble string in need for a securing knot because the thickness of the g string guaranties a secure retention force!

BTW I use the Diamond string ties on four guitars with normal/medium tension Nylon strings without any securing knot and never had any issues! I keep the ends long at the string ties until the strings have stabilized and then cut them back. :wink:

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by es335 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:16 am

rpavich wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:50 am
Francesco Carlo wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:31 pm
I use these instead. Very light and almost invisible:
http://shop.lucawaldner.com/it/accessor ... lates.html

Cheers
Those look pretty good.
They look more minimalistic but I found them more difficult to apply and particularly to remove on string changes. Now two sets of them are resting in the drawer while Diamond string ties are doing the job much more easily.

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by jhapgood » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:46 pm

I use the bone string-ties on my guitar, and I really like the look. I think it looks clean and neat. I have never had any issues with slippage over the past four years that I have used them, and it takes just moments to put new strings on with these. I like this brand and will order more for my new guitar when it is completed.

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by Beowulf » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:58 pm

es335 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:16 am
rpavich wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:50 am
Francesco Carlo wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:31 pm
I use these instead. Very light and almost invisible:
http://shop.lucawaldner.com/it/accessor ... lates.html

Cheers
Those look pretty good.
They look more minimalistic but I found them more difficult to apply and particularly to remove on string changes. Now two sets of them are resting in the drawer while Diamond string ties are doing the job much more easily.
Also, I don't like the rib of string behind the tie pressing into the tie block.
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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by Marco32 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:56 pm

Francesco Carlo wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:31 pm
I use these instead. Very light and almost invisible:
http://shop.lucawaldner.com/it/accessor ... lates.html

Cheers
Me too (and I think thanks to you for pointing me at the manufacturer). They work well and they are aesthetically pleasant.

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Re: String Tie - Ties your guitar strings?

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:26 am

Well, I tried a different set of strings, and just about skinned the D string again. I took them off. They are not for me. I gave them to a fellow forum member in my town who wants to try them.

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