Gigue tempo

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andrew382
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Gigue tempo

Post by andrew382 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:16 am

I'm talking about this particular piece on page 16:
https://classical-guitar-school.com/en/Files/1038.pdf

At which tempo should I play this piece? I've heard that 120 should be ok. In other words as if you played triplets at 40. At this tempo I still have problems playing the whole piece through. I can play it at 72 bpm that is 60 percent of the full tempo. At 80 percent (96 bpm) I'm starting to have problems. How can I get to full tempo and also improve my consistency?

Desperado
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Re: Gigue tempo

Post by Desperado » Thu May 16, 2019 5:16 am

Something to give it a dance like pulse? Technically it sounds like you maybe finding it difficult to connect the notes together or play detached. My advice would be to play it really slowly making sure the notes are sustained,legato. Remember to play legato you still need to have fast movement.

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Re: Gigue tempo

Post by franks59 » Thu May 16, 2019 1:10 pm

Of course you should only play it at a tempo that you can perform it beautifully, but as far as what a"proper" tempo for a Gigue is, Wikipedia says a Gigue is a " lively baroque dance originating from the Irish jig". I think 120 is way to slow to sound like an Irish Jig.

I'm currently working on the Gigue from BWV 1007 and I hear it most often played at twice that tempo - around 240 bpm for an eighth note or 80 bpm for a dotted quarter.

Frank

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Re: Gigue tempo

Post by Crofty » Thu May 16, 2019 2:01 pm

What is your rh fingering?

I would use [and advise] ami for the triplets. How about you?

I'd suggest rh is harder than lh for this piece, for a less experienced player.

Paul

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Re: Gigue tempo

Post by soltirefa » Thu May 16, 2019 2:22 pm

This question reminds me of hearing the difference in this Weiss Gigue by two different 13-string players (both below). I like both performances. While I prefer the faster tempo, I think slower works, too.




andrew382
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Re: Gigue tempo

Post by andrew382 » Thu May 16, 2019 5:08 pm

Crofty wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 2:01 pm
What is your rh fingering?

I would use [and advise] ami for the triplets. How about you?

I'd suggest rh is harder than lh for this piece, for a less experienced player.

Paul
mim ami for the main theme but I also use other combinations further into the piece.

andrew382
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Re: Gigue tempo

Post by andrew382 » Thu May 16, 2019 5:12 pm

I managed to get it to 120 today but I can only play sections not the whole piece through. I can only do this at 72. I played the most difficult parts involving combinations between 2nd and 3rd finger at 20% of the full tempo approximately 50 times and then I could play them a couple of times at full tempo. I still lack consistency. After a few measures I can't control my movements anymore.

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