Practice method for difficult passages

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Rognvald
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Re: Practice method for difficult passages

Post by Rognvald » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:38 am

"I do play music for a living, and have for 15 years! First you struck out with your comment about DR, then you come up with this. Jazz musicians don't use drugs. They don't practice licks. How ridiculous.

You have your opinions and experiences, but they're obviously limited. I'm done here."

Hi, CW,
I've tried to decipher your above remarks but I really don't understand what you are saying. Perhaps you can try again and write with better clarity. And, what is DR? Further, I never said Jazz musicians don't use drugs. I said the one's who have done so have always said they played better straight than when they were high. Among them are Miles Davis, Dexter Gordon, Chet Baker, Gene Ammons, John Coltrane, Charlie Parker among the many who dealt with drug problems. Only an idiot thinks he plays better high and you have an entire industry--Rock Music where this is the norm. In regards to a Jazz musician practicing licks . . .I've never done it nor have I known any of my friends to do so . . .we/they play scales, chords, chord inversions, work on melodic/harmonic lines but when it comes to a gig, we/they try to allow the spontaneity of the moment and the feedback from the other musicians to prevail. That's Jazz. And, the only time I've heard "practiced" solos is in the college/university programs that have a Jazz Studies Department where they memorize written solos transcribed from old LP's. In large, they're not creating Jazz players, they're creating music machines who play rote "improvisations" and, for many, if they had to get off the page, they would be lost in the woods. Yes, I do have my opinions and experiences. But, for you to state they are limited based upon my remarks which you have grossly misread/understood is patently absurd. I have no idea what type of music you play for a living but I can assure you that based upon your remarks we live in very different worlds. However, that's what makes the world go 'round. It's unlikely our planets will ever collide. Playing again . . . Rognvald
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra

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Feynman
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Re: Practice method for difficult passages

Post by Feynman » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:59 pm

Thank you for the video, Daniel. I've learned quite a few beneficial things from you and your site.

I appreciate your contribution.
-mitch

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Re: Practice method for difficult passages

Post by Will » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:44 am

wherer is a link to this video mentioned, And where is your self anaylsis o f what the break down is on the difficult parts you've mentioned If you atre just repeating over and over without a goal . . I respectfully submit your methods are flawed. Did you really think Segovia just repeated over and over without a thorough understanding of the musical and technical goals he was trying to perfect?
Can you do a solid and strong 4-1 trill on the 2nd string in 5th position? And how about a 3-1 trill in 1st and 2nd position on all strings.

Well I hope you can post some specifics on what the issues are you are having .
Thanks
-Will

Rognvald
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Re: Practice method for difficult passages

Post by Rognvald » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:52 pm

Did you really think Segovia just repeated over and over without a thorough understanding of the musical and technical goals he was trying to perfect?
Will

Daniel,
I just saw the above comment by Will and I thought it was an excellent question in regards to the topic of discussion. Perhaps, he misunderstood your earlier remarks. If so, would you care to clarify? Playing again . . . Rognvald
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra

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