That's a fair point! The fingertip doesn't appear to rotate at all so I'm not sure this is the issue.lagartija wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:29 pmThere is one other factor no one has yet mentioned. When applying the pressure to depress the string, does the finger rotate at all? I had this problem with my a finger; I would start out at the correct angle of presentation, then as pressure was applied, the finger would rotate and the string would slide into the space between nail and flesh. This could be observed by looking in the mirror. It took a bit of careful awareness during slow practice to correct the problem. Then tone improved and the click was gone.
If you are able to do it properly with slow passages but not in fast passages, that may indicate that you should slow down that passage until you find the top speed at which you can do it correctly, then increase the execution tempo bit by bit. Playing the passage fast over and over with the click problem just ensures that you will ingrain that problem in the passage.
I'm working on testing this theory as well. I have to let the nail grow a bit to test it out, but it does seem in keeping with the Kanengiser video where he describes how to file the nails.astro64 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:06 pmI agree with guitarrista. Your nail on i seems too short. Since that finger is shorter than m, it can work better to have that nail longer than for the m finger. I am more likely to get a click when the nail is too short. The finger must land at the spot where the string make contact with flesh and nail. Too short a nail and it won't work. A bigger gap between flesh and nail mail require a longer nail to achieve this. I would also try not to file the left corner of that nail back so far. File it in a plane, slightly slanted. See Tennant's videos on this. Resist rounding the corners. The very left corner never contacts the string so it cannot be an issue to keep it; not rounding the nail does produces a more consistent straighter contact edge given a full sound.
I'm not in total agreement here. I don't actually "press" the flesh onto the string at all. When I am well warmed up and the fingers are hitting the strings accurately, the flesh barely touches the string at all. It's almost a graze - just enough to dampen the ringing string and prepare it to touch the nail. If I'm "digging in" I do it with the resistance of the nail, not the flesh. That may not be everyone's experience, and I have seen some who teach that there should be a deep contact point with the flesh, but I don't use this approach.guitarrista wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:49 pmIt seems your nail is way too short and possibly not of the right shape, on your i finger. You have to find the right length and nail shape so that there is a seamless transition between the pressed flesh and the nail. Note that it is the flesh as pressed by the string against which the fingertip is working - not as you see it when just looking at your finger. When the string is pressing (well, really, the fingertip flesh is pushing the string) back on the flesh, it moves it at least a bit toward the nail; it is that pressed 3D shape of your fingertip (flesh plus nail) that is of relevance.
Yep, this is pretty much what I do to solve the problem. I've tried many ways of shaping the nail over the years but nothing worked except changing the point of impact and release.SteveL123 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:50 pmmmcnabb and PeteJ, have you tried playing on the other half of your nails to eliminate nail click? Instead of starting the pluck of the string from the thumb side of the nail of i,m,a and releasing towards the middle part of the nail, have you tried starting the pluck from the middle part of the nail and releasing towards the pinky side of the nail? Many top players play this way , e.g Tom Viloteau ......
Hello...thanks for the info. on nail shape. Is there any chance you might post a picture of your nails; front and back?
Hello David! I am sorry it took so long but things are very busy around here and taking a decent picture of my nails took ages (also figuring out a way to attach it here on the forum). The length is quite short to play classical but it works quite well producing the right tone. If I had a whole concert to play I would have them longer. There is a front and back view but the actual help comes from the view I have while I am filing the nails (3rd image). You can notice a straight line there. The angle of each ramp comes from the angle every player uses his/her right wristDavid Gutowski wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:55 amHello...thanks for the info. on nail shape. Is there any chance you might post a picture of your nails; front and back?
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