Check out other discussions on Delcamp about Alice Artzt (also on utube) and Ida Prestii. Fascinating!DTut wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:50 amIs it more common these days to play off the right side of the nails? It seems the YouTubes of younger players mostly play on the right side. I think previously most players played on the left side--Segovia, Williams, Bream, Parkening, et. al.
Is there some advantage to playing off the right side?
You are right but I'd generalize this a bit to say that the ramp approach confines you to just one style of plucking - whether it is left-to-right, or right-to-left - in the same direction as determined by the ramp. Some players have left-to-right ramps on i and m fingers and right-to-left ramp on the a finger, necessitated by anatomical variations in how the fingers 'see' the strings.
I agree with this. I’ve been experimenting recently with a more supinated hand position but it doesn’t feel like I’m playing off the right side if the nail. More it feels, as guit-box says, like the contact point has shifted to the right.guit-box wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:57 pmThe trouble that one gets into with this kind of discussion is first defining what "right side of the nails" means. You end up with everyone thinking they have a clear idea of what this means but several people will define it differently and the discussion becomes meaningless.
Tipping the hand so the pinky is closer to the soundboard (supination) and the nail contacts more on the right side of the nail is not playing on the right side of the nails by my definition, it's still sliding from left-to-right off the nail, only the contact point is more to the right.
Playing off the right side of the nails (what some call Ida Presti style) involves starting the stroke on the right side of the nail and sliding over the string from right-to-left. In order to do both left side and right side playing, you need to have a rounded nail shape--like Segovia. The modern straight ramp nail where the nail is lower on the left side and follows a straight line and is higher on the right side (see Pumping Nylon) will only work with left to right plucking.
It's difficult to know what you mean by "shaped like little picks" If you're talking flat picks, then some of those are pointy and some are rounded but most have a rounded-point like a Fender heavy pick. Some classical guitarists have a pointer nail but they are likely still ramping thru the string they just start the stroke farther to the left of the nail, whereas those with a flatter ramp start at a point that is still at the bottom of the ramp but it's slightly more to the right to avoid falling off the edge of the nail. Fingerpicks are a whole different issue, they go on the finger backwards compared to a natural nail so they ramp but in a different way.David Gutowski wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:38 amI see a lot of pros with fingernails shaped like little picks in the middle of the fingers. I assume they are plucking the strings straight up and not using any slice on the strings in either direction; almost like an acoustic guitar player holding a plastic pick only now with four picks attached-one on ea finger. Does anyone have any experience with this type of nail shape or insight on its effectiveness? (Before I start, once again, filing)
Same as Kanengieser in the video, he talks about that resulting from the radial positioning of the fingers to the string.
The closest thing I've seen to "little picks in the middle of the nail". David Russell's i and m fingernail look a bit like a Fender pick turned so the point is a little closer to the right side of the nail than dead center.David Gutowski wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:38 amTrying the file on string tomorrow...thanks for the heads up...I'll just have to keep experimenting with it to get the best tone. I did notice most of the players have very low nails...have to try that too.
Thanks again for the videos and nail shaping info. I am familiar with shaping the nails but was wondering about making little picks in the middle of the nail.