Another ? about Dyens Lettre#6

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Another ? about Dyens Lettre#6

Post by tejjy » Sat May 11, 2019 2:22 am

In bar 24 there's an A in the bass followed by a G (part of a stepwise descent, one day someone'll think of a new idea) - OTOH, Dyens is gungho in the playing notes about stopping notes OTOH he is promiscuous in his use of squelch marks throughout this piece.

So should I assume this is deliberately not silenced? It sounds bloody horrible. Or is it just another example of failed notation for my eventual book?

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Re: Another ? about Dyens Lettre#6

Post by Steve Ganz » Sat May 11, 2019 3:12 am

What is the full title of that lettre?
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Re: Another ? about Dyens Lettre#6

Post by Steve Ganz » Sat May 11, 2019 4:22 am

OK. Lettre Milongue....
The low A in that measure is held for the full value of an 8th note. IF you don't like the way it sounds, touch it when playing the G
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Re: Another ? about Dyens Lettre#6

Post by Mark Clifton-Gaultier » Sat May 11, 2019 7:31 am

tejjy wrote:So should I assume this is deliberately not silenced?
Why would you assume that? Just use whatever is your preferred technique for playing precisely articulated descending scales.
tejjy wrote:... is it just another example of failed notation for my eventual book?
No.

If we marked the cessation of every note the score would be a mess. Look at measure 2 - do we need to be told that the bass D should end on execution of the A? Similarly the low B in m.3, E in m.4 etc., etc. Of course not - notes with melodic function have a beginning and an end which we naturally control as part of our basic technique without the need for further instruction.

A reminder about open Es and As is possibly justified for those without ears - I'd ditch them personally

Dyens is inconsistent however, and does overload the score in some cases, e.g. Measure 22 where the A is marked as stopped (there is already a perfectly clear rest indication) yet the E is not.

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Re: Another ? about Dyens Lettre#6

Post by tejjy » Sat May 11, 2019 8:58 pm

Well, if you'd lead with "Dyens is inconsistent" I could have saved myself some time :-) But thanks for that; I didn't think the bar 24 situation was analagous with the early measures, but perhaps it it is.

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Re: Another ? about Dyens Lettre#6

Post by Steve Ganz » Sat May 11, 2019 11:40 pm

I think that Dyens' penchant for specifying what he wants the player to do is pleasantly challenging. I don't think that I've ever heard a player sound like Dyens sounded. The instructions are thought provoking though. They give nice hints about what was in his ear when he notated the pieces. I can't think of anyone who is consistent all the time. I recently heard a great player interpret Lettre a Julia Florida. The player was a past GFA winner. The interpretation departed in many respects from Dyen's instructions. Some things are important, others not so much, and all are subject to the player's interpretations.
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