Holding the guitar near-vertical

Ergonomics and Posture for Classical Guitarists, Aches and Pains, Injuries, etc...
Marlene Finch
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Re: Holding the guitar near-vertical

Post by Marlene Finch » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:58 pm

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:09 pm
Marlene Finch wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:33 am
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I'm a complete novice here, but I found your posts about posture and guitar positioning very interesting.
In the line directly below, I'm quoting another post (but can't figure out exactly how to use the quote function :roll:
"The catalogue of players incapacitated by traditional posture is considerable. "
Can you tell me more about this....?
That was me :)

Greetings Steve, Thank you so much for your response.
Here I go trying the quote function........ :D
"....Some of them will have picked up difficulties related to posture which may well only start to kick in and hurt badly in their 30s or 40s.
Equally, a high proportion of even the still successful ones will at some stage experience some postural issues and/or over-use issues, again often after a couple of decades in the job."

OK, so it looks like this is a problem that will never concern me. I have no ambitions to stage performance, indeed, I'm still working on "Old Mac Donald."
Plus, I'm already older than zip codes :D

I am intrigued by the "almost vertical" position as well as the end point that "Intune" mentioned.

As for using a cheap guitar to try the end point, no problem here. I'm pretty sure that I'm holding the least expensive guitar known to humankind. :wink:
Also, it looks as though I will have to work a little on the whole quote thing.
Thank You Again!
Cheers!
Marlene

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Re: Holding the guitar near-vertical

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:11 pm

Marlene Finch wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:58 pm
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Also, it looks as though I will have to work a little on the whole quote thing.
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'Fraid so! :?
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Re: Holding the guitar near-vertical

Post by Conall » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:53 pm

I used a footstool for about 20 years. I'm convinced it's one of the reasons for my back pain. Ever since I switched to a guitar support my back has felt better & I could never go back to the footstool (my back pain returns if I do).

I did toy with a Paul Galbraith posture but while I never adopted it (I didn't want to damage my good guitar with an end pin!) Ihave noticed that my guitar support now works best for me at it's highest setting, especially for serious practice.

As a guitar teacher the long term (back / posture) health of pupils is a concern too and while I do ask young beginners to buy & use a footstool (because it's a lot cheaper & a bit easier to use than a guitar support) I always strongly recommend they swop it for a guitar support when they start practicing for longer periods.

The actual angle of the guitar is not as important for good posture as a straight back & level shoulders and, as has already been mentioned, gravity is a daft argument against the cello position.

And the Galbraith position avoids the arm rest issue some guitarists have. It also shows great control of the right arm & a lack of superfluous tension (probably the reason for some guitarists' arm rest issue!).

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Re: Holding the guitar near-vertical

Post by LarryShone » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:15 am

Endpin with a guitar? Interesting idea
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Re: Holding the guitar near-vertical

Post by Intune » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:18 am

LarryShone wrote:
Endpin with a guitar? Interesting idea
Where have you been? Check out Paul Galbraith's videos on YouTube.
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Re: Holding the guitar near-vertical

Post by LarryShone » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:26 am

Intune wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:18 am
LarryShone wrote:
Endpin with a guitar? Interesting idea
Where have you been? Check out Paul Galbraith's videos on YouTube.
I'm kind of out of the loop when it comes to classical guitar. I don't know much about it and its players.
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