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Tárrega, Francisco - Oremus - Video

Post by vinnyob22 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:48 am


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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Oremus - Video

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:55 am

Really nice Vinny! I love this piece and have trouble with the quick transitions required throughout the first section in particular; playing legato. you seem to have that solved.

You play this fairly fast. For me, it's slow and deep and resonant; a cry of adoration in silence. Not so fast. But I haven't solved it!

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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Oremus - Video

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:35 am

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:55 am
Really nice Vinny! I love this piece and have trouble with the quick transitions required throughout the first section in particular; playing legato. you seem to have that solved.

You play this fairly fast. For me, it's slow and deep and resonant; a cry of adoration in silence. Not so fast. But I haven't solved it!
Also; it is in fact a Schumann piano piece, part transcribed by Tarrega in his last hours...and the piano piece is marked fast.
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Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:32 pm

Stephen--thanks; I knew it was a Schumann piece, but I didn't know the tempo marking. I've heard this played at various tempos on the guitar; I guess I was just indicating my personal preference. What does Schumann know anyway?

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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Oremus - Video

Post by vinnyob22 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:06 am

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:55 am
Really nice Vinny! I love this piece and have trouble with the quick transitions required throughout the first section in particular; playing legato. you seem to have that solved.

You play this fairly fast. For me, it's slow and deep and resonant; a cry of adoration in silence. Not so fast. But I haven't solved it!
Thanks Jeffrey! Those quick transitions in the first section are really tough and I don't have them where I want them yet. Still a work in progress. I'm also working on Endecha to make the combo piece. There are some tricky chord transitions in that piece too.

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Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:21 am

Yes Endecha has a great leap or two in it for sure. Strangely, I find Endecha easier to play than Oremus--although I don't have either where I want them. Worse yet, I started trying to play Oremus before I was ready and now I have the old frustration embedded in my muscle memory. If I slow it way down it helps to play it legato, but who knows where I'll end up with it tempo wise. I think my problem is that I want to give the bass notes equal time value as the melody line, for some reason. I want the bass notes to have equal emphasis and yet it's not written that way. I know this is stupid but there you have it. You play the bass notes quick and crisp like they're written. And now I'm off to play it that way!

However I can't see Oremus being allegro! although the shifts seem allegro...Tarrega was inspired by nuns praying...I don't think nuns pray allegro.

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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Oremus - Video

Post by vinnyob22 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:42 pm

Oh yes, I do know about undesirable frustration embedded in my muscle memory. Your approach of slowing it way down is probably the best way to reset that muscle memory as well. This is what I'm trying to do with Endecha now.

I also can't see Oremus being allegro. Even though the original, Schumann's "Phantasietanz" is very fast, the slow tempo of Tarrega's transcription really brings out a dark, mournful character that I much prefer over the original.

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