Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

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Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by dtoh » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:50 am

How do people shape the top inside edge of their nails. Square? Beveled? Rounded? Something else?

What do you use for filing/polishing this part of your nail. Folded sandpaper? Rubber backed file? ??

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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by Larry McDonald » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am

Well rounded, like the edge of a heavy Fender pick. I use 600 fine.
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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by dtoh » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:28 am

Larry McDonald wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am
Well rounded, like the edge of a heavy Fender pick. I use 600 fine.
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Follow up questions.

Do you use any kind of backing for the sandpaper or fold it over or anything.

Also what kind of filing, polishing action do you use? Laterally along the edge of the nail, or up and down parallel to the axis of the finger.

I've been using a series of rubber nail files 200, 280, 600, 3000 and wondering what other people use.

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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by Larry McDonald » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:37 pm

dtoh wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:28 am
Larry McDonald wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am
Well rounded, like the edge of a heavy Fender pick. I use 600 fine.
Lare
Follow up questions.

Do you use any kind of backing for the sandpaper or fold it over or anything.

Also what kind of filing, polishing action do you use? Laterally along the edge of the nail, or up and down parallel to the axis of the finger.

I've been using a series of rubber nail files 200, 280, 600, 3000 and wondering what other people use.
No backing for the sandpaper. Always laterally. 2 times a day, at least.
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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by celestemcc » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:56 pm

Backing of the sandpaper after all fine filing is done -- if you use sandpaper. I used to. Now I do rough shaping with a glass file like Wolfram or Strings By Mail (both are far superior to cosmeticians' glass files) and then use an Oasis 4-sided buffer. The "smooth" grit parts of that do the work of the back of sandpaper, it's just a bit more convenient. Nice glassy smooth finish to the nail edges.
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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by SteveL123 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:27 pm

Larry McDonald wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am
Well rounded, like the edge of a heavy Fender pick. I use 600 fine.
Lare
I have not done much experimentation with filing my nails. Is 600 grit fine enough? I read posts of people that use 3500 grit and then micromesh after that. Does finer grit make a difference? I have a few sheets of leftover 1200 grit 3M wet dry paper from when I did body work on my car many years ago that I have been using to polish the nails after rough shaping with a $0.99 fine emery board. Seems to work ok. Always looking for easier and better ways.

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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by astro64 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:31 pm

SteveL123 wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:27 pm
Larry McDonald wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am
Well rounded, like the edge of a heavy Fender pick. I use 600 fine.
Lare
I have not done much experimentation with filing my nails. Is 600 grit fine enough? I read posts of people that use 3500 grit and then micromesh after that. Does finer grit make a difference? I have a few sheets of leftover 1200 grit 3M wet dry paper from when I did body work on my car many years ago that I have been using to polish the nails after rough shaping with a $0.99 fine emery board. Seems to work ok. Always looking for easier and better ways.
600 is too rough, get 2000 at e.g. a car parts store. The 2000 will quickly get smoother yet, so I use the older sheets for polishing and the newer ones after 'rough shaping' with the glass file.

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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by SteveL123 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:38 pm

Larry McDonald wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am
Well rounded, like the edge of a heavy Fender pick. I use 600 fine.
Lare
I have not done much experimentation with filing my nails. Is 600 grit fine enough? I read posts of people that use 3500 grit and then micromesh after that. Does finer grit make a difference? I have a few sheets of leftover 1200 grit 3M wet dry paper from when I did body work on my car many years ago that I have been using to polish the nails after rough shaping with a $0.99 fine emery board. Seems to work ok. Always looking for easier and better ways.
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600 is too rough, get 2000 at e.g. a car parts store. The 2000 will quickly get smoother yet, so I use the older sheets for polishing and the newer ones after 'rough shaping' with the glass file.
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What kind of abrasives are used in the glass files? Strings by mail has what's called Ruby stone crystal nail file which gets good reviews and seems more versatile than the glass file. Do you have experience with it?


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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by Larry McDonald » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:15 pm

SteveL123 wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:27 pm
Larry McDonald wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am
Well rounded, like the edge of a heavy Fender pick. I use 600 fine.
Lare
I have not done much experimentation with filing my nails. Is 600 grit fine enough? I read posts of people that use 3500 grit and then micromesh after that. Does finer grit make a difference? I have a few sheets of leftover 1200 grit 3M wet dry paper from when I did body work on my car many years ago that I have been using to polish the nails after rough shaping with a $0.99 fine emery board. Seems to work ok. Always looking for easier and better ways.
I find that I need the "used" part of the paper as much as the new part of the paper. But in a concert situation, my nails seem to migrate to the 600 grit level after the first tune, regardless of how polished they were to start. I suppose it depends if you are playing at a parlor volume (recording), or projecting at concert levels, which can rough-up my nails rather quickly.

I saw Ricardo Cobo do his nails between each piece he demonstrated in a masterclass.

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Re: Shaping Inside Edge of Nail

Post by JohnB » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:36 am

I use 8000 and 12000 grade micromesh wrapped over the end of a round pencil for the inner edge of the nail.
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