rojarosguitar wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:08 am
Konstantin, very nice playing first of all.
You have a very nice and light touch!
As to the sound, it is difficult to tell, as the sound file is clearly processed, but we don't know how (in any case I hear some reverb, unless you have recorded in a really big lively room).
I can't really see the advantage of this kind of equipment that seems to be somewhere in between the stand-alone mobile recorder (or a smartphone made into a recorder) and a fully blown recording chain.
For documenting a session or ones' musical development I think any of the mobile recorders (Zoom, Tascam, Sony, Panasonic, you name it) is better than good enough IMHO. For serious music productions the Apogee is not going to be good enough, apart from the fact that you are stuck with mono occupying your lightning input.
For myself I have found out that when I record myself I want to be busied or bothered as little as possible with the technical side of the process. If I want really a high quality recorder, I pull ut one of my bigger mobile recorders and use some great and proven stereo mic. If I just want a simple memo, I'd take either my iPhone with Zoom iQ7 or the DR-40 that is hard to beat in that price range. These ar all 'no-brainers' to set up and then you can concentrate on what you actually want to do: play...
These are my thoughts (though certainly these products must have some user niche, because otherwise they will disappear quickly from the market)...
Thanks for the nice snippets of music! More of that, please...
Thank you Rojaros, I record in a quite small room, but due to high ceiling, wooden floor and some asymmetry in the walls it is quite satisfying to play guitar in. Saying that, there is some additional reverb form Logic but other than that and a low cut filter around 78Hz there is no other processing being done to the audio!
A USB mic that can be connected to an iPhone is very similar in practical use with what you do with your iQ7, additionally it offering more placement options - therefore better sound probably - if you want to do video with the phone as well.
As stated above and in my video I don't really like how the onboard mics of the Zoom h5 sound, they are thin, brittle and noisy, okay for recording a performance for future reference but not for any kind of production - unless of course you use external microphones. Therefore I wanted to try the Apogee Mic+ and see where it stands in comparison to my studio mics and a decent portable recorder and I think it is somewhere around in the middle, I could use it for a youtube video but not to record my new album.
Now why I might want something like that since I have already invested in very good microphones, interface, preamps, etc. Well, I´m not in Berlin all the time and It would be cool if I could bring on tour as less equipment as possible and still be able to make some decent recordings if I want and have the time.
In that perspective I did a comparison today (I´ll post it probably tomorrow) between the Neumann TLM102, Line Audio CM3, Apogee Mic+ and Olympus LS-P2 (I just got it yesterday) and I decided that I'm not going to keep the Mic+ since the Olympus sounds more natural and is less of a hustle (and cheaper) so I´ll probably keep that but I'm still searching and any additional suggestion is welcome.
kloeten wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:38 am
@ Konstantin, for a home recording, this sounds great!
@ rojarosguitar - my Zoom H4n always leaves me frustrated with a thin sound. Recording 'louder' implies more finger noise / clipping etc. Can the difference be explained by post-processing as you say?
Thank you Rutger, as I say above the only post-processing that was done to this clip is a bit of reverb and a low cut filter and applying to your recordings won't make the H4n to sound less thin (I have an h5 and have a similar opinion). But definitely if you learn about microphone placement and how to apply EQ, Compression/Limiters, Reverb and some De-noise with your computer, you can definitely make any microphone or recorder that its not too bad to sound decent enough. Saying that, mic placement is the key and I spend a lot of time finding where the mics sound right and then usually leave EQ flat (save for low cut to clear the low frequencies).
Let me know if you are interested and I´ll make a video explaining mic placement and how to process sound with plugins to get more polished results.