Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by Peter Lovett » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:46 am

randalljazz wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:38 am
Peter Lovett wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:24 pm
All of it........except Wagner.
what?!

i'll meet you in bayreuth!
Hehehe......expect a lengthy delay. :mrgreen:
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by randalljazz » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:19 pm

Peter Lovett wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:46 am
randalljazz wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:38 am
Peter Lovett wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:24 pm
All of it........except Wagner.
what?!

i'll meet you in bayreuth!
Hehehe......expect a lengthy delay. :mrgreen:
ten year waiting list for tickets :contrat:
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by JohnB » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:26 pm

Britten's Nocturnal is well established in the CG repertoire so I thought I would add a few Britten pieces that people might want to explore, mostly mature works from early-ish in his career which are well established in the orchestral repertoire. I've not included any of his operas or chamber music.

Britten: Four Sea Interludes (orchestral) (originally from his opera "Peter Grimes" these are performed as a concert piece - wonderful music, very evocative, a must listen)
Britten: Sinfonia da Requiem (orchestral) (written at the outset of WWII)
Britten: Young Person's Guide the the Orchestra (orchestral) aka "Variations and Fugue on a Theme of Purcell" preferably the version without a narrator (very envoyable indeed)
Britten: Serenade for Tenor, Horn and String Orchestra (tenor & orchestra)
Britten: War Requiem (3 soloists, chorus, boys choir and orchestra) (intermingles the Latin Requiem with Wilfred Owen's war poems from WWI. Britten wanted three solo singers - one from the UK (Peter Pears), one from Germany (Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau) and one from Russia (Galina Vishnevskaya) to take part in the premier in the spirit of reconciliation. Participation of Galina Vishnevskaya was blocked by the USSR but she later took part in Britten's own recording of the work. It is difficult to describe the impact this work made in the UK at the time, 1962.)
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by gitgeezer » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:41 pm

Peter Lovett wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:24 pm
All of it........except Wagner.
Mahler liked Wagner. Does that say more about Wagner, or more about Mahler.

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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by Thorn Hill » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:39 am

Two exquisite pieces (companion pieces)

Henry Purcell- Rondeau from Abdelazer (on YouTube, look for Tafelmusik's version!)
Giovanni Battista Lulli, Marche pour la Cérémonie des Turcs (On Youtube look for Modo Antiquo)

One piece by the incomparable Michael Praetorious: Lo how a rose e'er blooming (look for the Baylor at Christmas version)

Or in German: Es ist ein Ros' entsprungen (look for the version put up by morphthing1 on YouTube- better than the English version, but the English version has the choir taped live)

Just realized: this is more Early Music (Renaissance) than Classical music, but I hope that is no problem....

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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by jscott » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:19 am

Beethoven, late string quartets. How has this not been mentioned yet?
Bach masses and cantatas
A little Messiaen goes a long way. I tend to prefer everything BUT the two pieces already mentioned.
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by Marshall Dixon » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:06 am

jscott wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:19 am
Beethoven, late string quartets. How has this not been mentioned yet?
What I find lacking in most of these suggestions is... the interpretation.

In my library I have the Amadeus, Guarnari, Budapest, and Busch string quartets playing these. The Busch quartets date from the 1930's and though their sound quality is much to be desired, their unedited spontaneous verve puts them in the running with the best (with the exception of the Große Fugue, which Busch adapted for string orchestra).

OK, so while I'm at it: Mozart's Magic Flute. Otto Klemperer conducting the Berlin Radio Philharmonic (if memory serves me) from the early 1960's. Of the wonderful singers the only name I recall is the queen of the night, Gundula Janowitz.

Luigi Boccherini wrote reams of music, including string quintets with guitar. (I haven't heard a version of these that is memorable to me.) But the string symphonies played by I Solisti Veniti conducted by Claudio Scimone are incredibly alive.

The first I heard of Bach was Segovia playing the fugue from the 2nd partita. When I heard Heifetz playing the sonatas and partitas for unaccompanied violin... I put the guitar versions aside. Same with the 'cello suites. Pierre Fournier, Jonas Starker and Pablo Cassals have a place in my library, as does Jorge Caballero, but... have listened to the Caballero versions only once.

Bach and organ are inseperable to me. The Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor played by Daniel Chorzempa; the D minor Toccata and Fugue played by Marie-Claire Alain. For starters.

The term "classical" is rather loosely adhered to in these suggestions. So I'll offer up Frank Zappa's Sofa #1.

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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:56 am

JohnB wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:26 pm
Britten's Nocturnal is well established in the CG repertoire so I thought I would add a few Britten pieces that people might want to explore, mostly mature works from early-ish in his career which are well established in the orchestral repertoire....
In my list, forgot to mention the Britten Violin Concerto.
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by JohnB » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:45 am

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:56 am
In my list, forgot to mention the Britten Violin Concerto.
Yes !!!
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by Peter Lovett » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:23 am

gitgeezer wrote:
Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:41 pm
Peter Lovett wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:24 pm
All of it........except Wagner.
Mahler liked Wagner. Does that say more about Wagner, or more about Mahler.
I have to admit that I am yet to understand the rapturous adulation of Mahler by some people. It is not my preferred listening and I remain open to be convinced but Wagner receives an immediate switching off of the radio - without exception.
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by eno » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:51 am

Arvo Pärt: Fratres, Cantus, fur Alina, Spiegel im Spiegel, variations on the healing of Arinushka and many others
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by dory » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:09 am

The Chopin nocturnes got me through the US elections. (I get hyper around elections.) My mom was a pianist and they remind me of her. However, I would agree with the previous post. Anything but Wagner. I even got into Bruckner last summer when I had to sing one of his masses. Not excited in the beginning but came around.
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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by gitgeezer » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:17 pm

Lady in audience to Victor Borge: "Could you please play Chopin's Nocturne?"

Borge: "Which one?

Lady: "The composer, of course."

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Re: Classical (non CG) music that everyone should hear!

Post by Carey » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:13 am

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:42 pm
Bach; Double Violin Concerto
Schubert; Fantasie in F minor piano 4 hands, + last quartet
Mozart; Quintets
Brahms; Quintets and Sextets
William Cornysh; Stabat Mater, Salve Regina
Josquin; L'Homme Armé Mass
Regarding this Josquin Mass, I very much like the recording of it by A Sei Voci. It might be out of print but is worth
tracking down, as are all their Josquin recordings, IMO.

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Post by slidika » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:29 pm

Just a comment on one composer -- as a piano major in college (many years ago), I was assigned a Bela Bartok piece. Complete clash of notes and timing to my ears (and others) -- I could not stand it. :(
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