Can I call finger style semi- classical?

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Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Thomas » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:53 pm

I wonder if I can call a finger style semi-classical :)

Do you understand what I mean?

Edit: I mean the manner of playing not the genre.
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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Christopher Langley » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:09 pm

The thing that separates the two styles for me is classical music has a heavy emphasis on old music and studying counterpoint, whereas fingerstyle typically refers to more modern contemporary and less advanced music.

I started out fingerstyle!
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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Peter Frary » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:10 pm

If so, you'd have to label the technique of Delta Blues, flamenco, slack-key and bossa nova as semi-classical. Plucking the strings with one's fingers is a natural human technique. Well, because we have fingers...
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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Julian Ward » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:48 pm

I don't know about other countries but in the UK the term 'fingerstyle' is used mainly in its literal meaning - on a steel string acoustic guitar, as opposed to using a plectrum. That's all really.
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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Steve Ganz » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:50 pm

Sure. Go ahead.
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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by guitareleven » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:07 pm

Well, you have my permission.

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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Thomas » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:12 pm

guitareleven wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:07 pm
Well, you have my permission.
Thanks I was waiting for your permission :) :bravo:

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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by NeroXIV » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:25 pm

It already has a name though...finger style! (or fingerstyle?)

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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Jack Douglas » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:44 pm

‘The technique that classical guitarists use is “fingerstyle” although classical guitarists don't normally call it that specifically- mostly because playing with fingers is always required for the music.‘ I found this quote when I looked up classical vs finger style. My own thinking about ‘fingerstyle’ playing is that the music is typically more pop oriented, such as Vincent, Why Worry, Over the Rainbow, etc. all of which require playing the bass and melody with one hand. Some players of fingerstyle music use a thumb pick to make the bass notes more forceful, but not so many use a plectrum (my observation).
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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Frank Nordberg » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:22 pm

Thomas wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:53 pm
I wonder if I can call a finger style semi-classical :)
The important thing to remember is that all those style labels only describe the flavour the music comes in and has nothing whatsoever to do with quality or lack of such.

Just out of curiosity, what would people here call this?
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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Keith » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:44 pm

Probably not. Classical music is a style of music much like jazz, bluegrass, etc. Semi-classical needs to be defined. Is it a fusion with another style of music? Finger style is a method of playing. One can play classical with a pick (I have seen such a book) and one can play jazz with no pick but with fingers.
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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by musicbyandy » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:54 pm

Thomas wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:53 pm
I wonder if I can call a finger style semi-classical :)

Do you understand what I mean?
I do not know what you mean. I don't fully understand your sentence. I understand that you wonder if you can call a...and I don't understand the rest of what you wrote.

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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by Grasshopper » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:08 am

Julian Ward wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:48 pm
I don't know about other countries but in the UK the term 'fingerstyle' is used mainly in its literal meaning - on a steel string acoustic guitar, as opposed to using a plectrum. That's all really.
One thing that tends to be different between the "finger pickers" (usually, as you say on a steel string guitar) and the classical style is the way that the right hand is used. In the classical style the player uses the rest stroke or the free stroke to control the tone and volume of the note being played - to emphasise the tune for example or to produce a more mellow tone.

With the self-taught finger-pickers they mostly seem to use the free stroke - which is limiting with an acoustic instrument, where you can't just adjust the tone control. There's a whole new world of difficulty when you start trying to use the rest stroke properly. :( Especially when you try to do it on a steel strung guitar which almost always has much narrower string spacing at the bridge (saddle).

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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by riffmeister » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:07 pm

Finger style is how I eat pizza.

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Re: Can I call finger style semi- classical?

Post by sxedio » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:22 pm

Frank Nordberg wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:22 pm

Just out of curiosity, what would people here call this?
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